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innerSpaceman 09-29-2008 02:34 PM

He does. It's all that blackface. He's really white.





(He's half white, so I'm kinda bugged by this whole first black president thing. Half is half.)

Alex 09-29-2008 03:17 PM

Well, to be fair it would kind of suck if after centuries of "one black great-grandparent and you can't sit at the front of the bus" (and equivalents) it were now turned around and said that he isn't black because only one of his parents is black.

But that's unimportant. The key to me is that he's going to be the first president to have lived entirely with a 50 state United States. That's a key aspect of his identity right there.

Tom 09-29-2008 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tenigma (Post 242781)
Good golly Miss Molly, this is breathtakingly startling. ONE POINT. I knew Florida was a battleground state, but there's a lot riding because they have so many electoral votes.

If you got this excited about a one point race in Florida, then you probably shouldn't even look at this. You might hyperventilate.

And by all means, do not look at this, whatever you do.

scaeagles 09-29-2008 07:29 PM

I don't think this is close at all anymore. I think Obama has this in the bag, and honestly, the longer an economic package (if any) takes to pass and the American people are in a borderline economic panic state, the longer he will continue to increase his lead.

The rhetoric coming out of Pelosi's office, which is completely disingenuous, will continue to grab press attention and play to the American people.

However, McCains position at present can in no way be completely balmed on the dems. He's looked weak recently and the dems are doing a great job blaming republicans in general. He needs to start campaigning or it is all over.

Cadaverous Pallor 09-29-2008 07:40 PM

I have no idea if it's at all valid, but I love www.fivethirtyeight.com . The guy claims he knows what's he's talking about. It'll make any Obama supporter feel better :)

Tom 09-29-2008 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor (Post 242984)
I have no idea if it's at all valid, but I love www.fivethirtyeight.com .

I've been reading that site for a while, and it's become the political site I most often refresh through the course of the day. I have found his blog to be enlightening and insightful, and I actually had to read it for a number of weeks before I even became aware that he's a Democrat (though he's been letting that out more often of late). I don't know if the various percentages he has assigned to the races and the statistical analyses behind them are valid, but they seem to be pretty much in the ballpark of what I would expect based on my entirely unscientific impressions of the races.

flippyshark 09-29-2008 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowflake (Post 242790)
Well, Flippyshark, this puts some pressure on you, doesn't it? ;)

I'm hoping it all comes down to me. :)

Tenigma 09-29-2008 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 242981)
However, McCains position at present can in no way be completely balmed on the dems. He's looked weak recently and the dems are doing a great job blaming republicans in general. He needs to start campaigning or it is all over.

Wow, an early concession speech from sceagles?

As a point, McCain made a huge issue about how he was going to postpone his campaign, made a huge deal about going to DC, and then this thing doesn't pass. He might go around blaming Pelosi and Obama, but it just makes him look bad.

It's not really all his fault; Republicans in a close race that are running this year are voting against it. But it still makes him look petty.

Not Afraid 09-29-2008 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 242981)
I don't think this is close at all anymore. I think Obama has this in the bag, and honestly, the longer an economic package (if any) takes to pass and the American people are in a borderline economic panic state, the longer he will continue to increase his lead.

The rhetoric coming out of Pelosi's office, which is completely disingenuous, will continue to grab press attention and play to the American people.

However, McCains position at present can in no way be completely balmed on the dems. He's looked weak recently and the dems are doing a great job blaming republicans in general. He needs to start campaigning or it is all over.

I may just print that out and paste it on my wall until November rolls around.

wendybeth 09-29-2008 09:50 PM

I find it humorous that the cons are decrying Pelosi's partisan speech, while their own candidate took the situation for a very cynical ride (that backfired) last week. At the same time, I think Pelosi really didn't need to give the speech she did. I think the results would have been the same, but now the Repub's are blaming her instead of the real reason, which is they want to be re-elected and they know the public is very much against this bailout.


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