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JWBear 10-01-2008 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tenigma (Post 243464)
McCain seems to be changing and morphine every day.

That explains a lot... ;)

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Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis (Post 243474)
Or would Lincoln be recharacterized as a Democrat?

I don't know about Lincoln, but Teddy Rooseveldt sure would!

innerSpaceman 10-01-2008 12:49 PM

Leo, for the record, I'm not accusing you of changing the subject. I'm accusing you of constantly responding to a criticism with a different or similar criticism of another person. It's a poor tactic to say, well Joe Schmoe should be excused because so-and-so did something similar or worse.

That is (most times) completely besides the point. To say, But, waaa, the Democrats did bad thing "B" does not excuse the Republicans from doing bad thing "A." And responding that Joe Biden put his foot in his mouth is not a valid refutation of Sarah Palin putting her foot in her mouth.


It's perfectly valid to bring up any of these things. But to constantly bring them up to deflect criticism you don't like of entirely other people or persons is really rather infantile.


Please reconsider.

Gn2Dlnd 10-01-2008 12:54 PM

Bully!

Morrigoon 10-01-2008 12:54 PM

Ew. I hope the Hillary-replaces-Biden thing stays merely rumor. Else I'll have to reconsider my vote.

Ghoulish Delight 10-01-2008 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 243471)
Please don't accuse me of changing the subject. This is the Obama thread, this is sort of about Obama.

Is anyone else creeped out by the children singing about Obama? Seen the Youtube ideo? I don't happen to have a link handy, but it's not hard ot find.

I haven't seen the video, but I'm generally creeped out by children as performers in any context so I imagine I would be.

Strangler Lewis 10-01-2008 01:16 PM

Sight unseen, I will concede the impropriety of using children as props in any political campaign, be it small-worldy-sounding songs for Obama or as sign-carrying "evidence" at anti-choice demonstrations.

flippyshark 10-01-2008 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 243505)
I haven't seen the video, but I'm generally creeped out by children as performers in any context so I imagine I would be.

You'd best avoid Bugsy Malone then.

I agree that using kids as performers for political and/or religious advocacy is manipulative and awful.

Tenigma 10-01-2008 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 243471)
Is anyone else creeped out by the children singing about Obama? Seen the Youtube ideo? I don't happen to have a link handy, but it's not hard ot find.

Yes, completely creepy. Drudge linked to it with a tag that said "Children sing for dear leader." I think he also under the Obama video, had a link to a bunch of North Korean children singing for their leader, as well.

There was a time when Drudge posted positive links about Obama. Now he routinely ignores controversial stories... Troopergate would otherwise be HUGE (I just have to read Mudflats instead).

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Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis (Post 243474)
Who's he on the stump for? I thought he was under the stump.

Ouch! Hey, the poor guy's dead, let him rest with his jar of Jelly Bellys

scaeagles 10-01-2008 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 243488)
Leo, for the record, I'm not accusing you of changing the subject.

Please reconsider.

OK.

To be honest, I don't even know how I did that in relation to your post, unless you were referring to my comment on "hope" and "change", which was only made because GC mentioned those terms.

innerSpaceman 10-01-2008 04:19 PM

No, no. I'm not talking about a specific post. I'm talking about a pattern developing over many posts, throughout many threads, over many days.


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