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Kevy Baby 02-19-2008 01:00 PM

How did a discussion of a group of lions come into this thread?

SacTown Chronic 02-19-2008 01:07 PM

I am extremely proud to be a white American male. It took foresight and a lot of planning to get the conditions of my birth exactly as I wanted them.

JWBear 02-19-2008 01:59 PM

I haven't been proud to be an American since 3/19/03.

wendybeth 02-19-2008 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SacTown Chronic (Post 193232)
I am extremely proud to be a white American male. It took foresight and a lot of planning to get the conditions of my birth exactly as I wanted them.

Good one, Sac.:cheers:

Cadaverous Pallor 02-19-2008 02:30 PM

If you can be proud to be an American in the face of all the awful things America has done in the past few years, THAT troubles me.

Motorboat Cruiser 02-19-2008 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepyjeff (Post 193202)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYY73RO_egw

So she was proud to be an American as a child, went to Harvard and until just recently was not proud to be an American???

News flash: There are millions of people that feel exactly as she does and are poised and ready to pull that lever on Election Day. People are overwhelming tired with business as usual in this country and are finally starting to wake up and demand change.

Kevy Baby 02-19-2008 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor (Post 193267)
If you can be proud to be an American in the face of all the awful things America has done in the past few years, THAT troubles me.

I am proud to be an American, in spite of whatever has happened in the last few years. Why?

Because I live in a country where I can say that I don't like the government without fear of thugs knocking on my door in the middle of the night to drag me and my family away.

Because I live in a country where I am free to read anything I want without it being dictated by my government.

Because I live in a country that does not deny me access to certain parts of the internet.

Because I live in a country where I can have a say in who leads my country and who represents me in government. And while I am just one vote amongst millions, I still get to vote.

I would go on, but my time is limited.

Snowflake 02-19-2008 03:22 PM

Kevy you said it so well.

I would only add, speaking for myself, I am proud to be an American, but this does not mean I am proud of the current administration (or lots of things about past administrations).

I'm hopeful about the future, I have to be, I'm a glass half full person.

wendybeth 02-19-2008 03:22 PM

I would say I'm grateful and relieved for the things KB listed, but not necessarily proud. Things that make me proud are when people (and country) do good things, things that make me sit back and say "Oh, yeah- wtg!" I suppose I could find plenty to be proud of so far as my country, but in recent years I've been spending far more time cringing rather than glowing. I'm not alone, and tossing the tired old anti-patriotic mantle at people like me is not going to get anyone anywhere. It hasn't thus far, that's for certain.

innerSpaceman 02-19-2008 03:25 PM

To me, that's exactly like saying I'm proud to be a white American male because I was so talented in arranging it so.

Why be "proud" to have the rights that are inalienable?


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