Actually it wasn't about showing them "normal" women, so much as showing them how to attract women.

And I never said take away porn, I just said it's twisted the expectations of the socially inept, making them still more socially inept.

Don't mind me, I'm being facetious :)

I am so glad i married the perfect person...We both like porn....lol.

And if a guy is relying on porn for reality???...Get a NEW guy.

Thanks Swank!

It's true, we do forget that we are beautiful no matter what shape or size. I think that if someone was truly interested in me, then my size shouldn't matter. I also believe it's important to look you're best no matter what and to be confident.

As for online dating, it is more of a comfort zone. You can have a conversation with a perfect stranger with out ever looking them in the eye.

1) We are all more beautiful than we think we are

2) Confidence is attractive

3) Our insecurities are our worst enemies

I buy Vogue because I love clothing, art and fashion. I fully realize that these clothes will not look the same on me no matter what I did to my current body. My body is no longer a coat hanger. I get to have tits and hips in this part of my life. And, you know what.....it's kind of fun! So.... I get ideas and inspirations from Vogue. Besides, they usually review good movies and books.

I don't know, Prudence. I guess it all comes down to personal experience. There are asshole men and there are asshole women. All of this is really generalization anyway. Standards of beauty have always existed. They change with the times. If you allow yourself to care about what's in fashion, or regardless of fashion, what any one person finds attracitve - and by care I mean judge yourself by the standards of others - than there's a certain amount of personal accountability, isn't there? It's probably not that men are worse than women or women are worse than men. And, ****, I've got my own standards of beauty. For example, if I were to make out with a robot, I'd rather make out with Sonny the pretty I, Robot robot than C3PO, who is dingy and foppish - not at all my type.

I can make the argument that FHM, Maxim, Vogue, Elle, etc. contribute to the creation of a sort of Frankenstein's monster of the Female Ideal, and that we're all being maniuplated by marketing, etc., although, to a certain extent, we *allow* this to happen as consumers.

I do think that media has a way of twisting things, and that many people suffer as a result of unrealistic expecations, whether those expectations are for love, for beauty, for success, etc. Ultiamtely it's people that need to tell the media (news, film, TV, radio, magazines, etc.) to go **** itself, I guess.

I love the costuming of the human body, so I dig a good rag from time to time. As far as body and clothes are concerned, it's all about flattering your body type, whatever that is.

It's sad that women and men cut up their bodies in hopes of achieving some unreachable standard of beauty. They want to look like the pretty magazine people, but the pretty magazine people don't even look like that. Even the pretty people have cellulite that's airbrushed away. Vericose veins? Sure, they have them. Pimples? Yup, them too. Hellllllo, airbrush. It's totally crazy. There are photogenic women who are less attractive in person and there are people who are very attractive in person but don't photograph well. And then there are people who defy all category, and man, aren't they friggin' awesome. And, and, and.

But I won't say "Everyone is beautiful! We're all special, unique snowflakes!" That's all subject to opinion. All I really care about is planet Nebutopialoopla. On that planet, I'm the Queen of Pretty. The QUEEN!

God, I have no idea what I'm even writing. I'm exhausted.

As an ugly man I find this thread to be very macabre. Someone post some porn. ;)