I guess the matter of choice goes like this.....when man chooses to have sex, little cash registers should go off in his head at that time, if he doesn't mind the sound and the implication, then he can continue. If he does mind, then he should probably switch to masturbation.

Make something illegal, and it is only going to drive it underground..... while morally, it would probably be better to include all partners in the decision making process of such things as abortion, however reality is that it just isn't going to happen except in a perfect world. Make something illegal, and those that think that the money is more important then following the law will continue to perform the procedures, probably with a lot more risk to all...

To think that we ever have control of another person, and what they will or will not do is, in my opinion, an absurd idea.

Is that something I have done here?

Why should the woman be the only one with a say about if the child is born?

I certainly agree with you - but isn't that what laws are all about? Creating consequences intended to control our behavior? Of course, we always can decide to take those consequences.

Because she'll be the one raising them.

Hmmm....I haven't much thought about it. An interesting conundrum that I will have to consider.

My first thought is that a marriage is a contract, of sorts, in the law. Upon divorce, the assets are split up by a court because there has been a legal agreement entered into. This, I suppose, then changes the situaiton a bit. In marriage, there is a legal agreement, and therefore a larger degree of responsibility on the part of the male.

I do need to think about that a bit more.

exactly, we can, and do, choose to take the consequences of whether we want to follow the law. Its a social contract, you either agree with the law, and follow it, or you don't and either get away with it, or pay the consequences. Making things illegal, have never stopped those activities, they have only created criminals.

You know, I just have to say that I love the way we tend to discuss things here. There is a lot of thoughtful, open discussion with different options being presented for consideration. I llove you guys!

huh??? how is there a difference in the level of responsibility in a legal agreement between the sexes?? Or did I read it wrong??