Alito

Gemini Cricket · 10-31-2005, 06:42 AM

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"Judge Alito has served with distinction on that court for 15 years, and now has more prior judicial experience than any Supreme Court nominee in more than 70 years," Bush said, drawing an unspoken contrast to his first choice, Harriet Miers.

Filibuster time!

scaeagles · 10-31-2005, 07:41 AM

And what is it that makes him so extreme that a filibuster would be required?

I am personally very excited about this pick. While I don't know a ton about him, he is often referred to as "Scalia-lite" or "ScAlito", but with a more low key temperament than the brilliant (whether you agree with him or not) Scalia.

My guess is that he will perform as well as Roberts in hearings and will make the inquisitors on the judiciary committee, once again, look like the mental midgets that they are.

Gemini Cricket · 10-31-2005, 08:01 AM

Alito and Frist use Parks for photo-op

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Wasting no time, the White House arranged for Alito to go to the Capitol after the announcement.The schedule called for Senate Majority Leader Bill First to greet him and accompany the nominee to the Capitol Rotunda to go to the coffin of the late civil rights pioneer Rosa Parks.

That's just blatantly shallow. Using a dead civil rights icon to further an agenda. That's just so wrong.

Bush said he doesn't like activist judges. I guess if it's a liberal activist judge then it's wrong, but a conservative activist judge then that's a different story.

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Lawrence Lustberg, a New Jersey criminal defense lawyer who has known Alito since 1981 and tried cases before him on the Third Circuit, describes him as "an activist conservatist judge" who is tough on crime and narrowly construes prisoners' and criminals' rights. "He's very prosecutorial from the bench. He has looked to be creative in his conservatism, which is, I think, as much a Rehnquist as a Scalia trait," Lustberg says.

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Bush just threw out what he said about diversity right out the window. Was that a flip-flop? Replacing O'Connor with Scalia-Lite.

Not only that, but this candidate has his corruption problems, too:

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Three years ago Alito drew conflict-of-interest accusations after he upheld a lower court's dismissal of a lawsuit against the Vanguard Group. Alito had hundreds of thousands of dollars invested with the mutual fund company at the time. He denied doing anything improper but recused himself from further involvement in the case.

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Forget about Roe v Wade:

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In 1991, he was the lone dissenter in a 3rd Circuit decision striking down a Pennsylvania law's requirement that women tell their husbands before having an abortion.

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Man, this is totally amazing but not shocking. I hope the Democrats filibuster this nomination. Maybe they won't need to, there's a big paper trail on this one.

Dumps Miers to jump on the conservative bandwagon (so much for staying the course with Harriet) and now catering to the right-wing nutjobs by embracing Alito.

What a circus... complete with a cowboy clown.

Gemini Cricket · 10-31-2005, 08:08 AM

Bush is just trying to change the subject with this nominee. He wants to take away some of the spotlight from his embattled administration by supporting someone that will divide the country again. Pathetic.

Here's what's going to happen. The Democrats are going to go after Alito for his ideological views and the Republicans are going to cry foul for what they're doing. BUT this is exactly what the Republicans did to Harriet Miers.

Gemini Cricket · 10-31-2005, 08:15 AM

More info:

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Alito, 55, is nicknamed "Scalito" because he reminds analysts of ultraconservative Justice Antonin Scalia. He once voted to uphold a law requiring a wife to get her husband's permission to get an abortion.

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Her husband's permission?!

sleepyjeff · 10-31-2005, 10:14 AM

Bring on the fillibuster......and watch Bush poll numbers climb higher and higher

If the Dems really want to get back to the scandals and the war and whatnot they would be smart to step off and let this one in quickly(kinda like Mike Ditka used to do) Otherwise they can stall this nomination and watch Conservative America rush to the Presidents side.

Gemini Cricket · 10-31-2005, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

Bring on the fillibuster......and watch Bush poll numbers climb higher and higher

Well, that's why he nominated this guy isn't it? My theory on this one is that I think Bush wants this one to be filibustered. I think there's another candidate after Alito in the works. I don't know who that is, but I have a feeling that it's part of the plan.

sleepyjeff · 10-31-2005, 10:30 AM

^You could be right. Then again this kinda puts the whole Bush is an idiot thing in the trash can if true

scaeagles · 10-31-2005, 10:32 AM

I would suggest that conservative America will already be rushing to his side. This is what Bush promised when he was campaigning - conservative justices should he have the opportunity to nominate. He came through with Roberts. Miers was an extraordinary letdown (just because I had no idea what she thought about anything and there were so many more choices available). This is what I expected when he nominated Miers. This should have been who he picked instead of Miers in the first place.

This man has been through two prior confirmations, and was confirmed in the Senate both times by 100-0. He was educated at Harvard and Yale (or maybe one of those was princeton - I forget exactly what I read). He has an abundance of experience and a track record for all to see.

Contrary to what GC has suggested, Miers was not vilified by the right because of her policies. It was because no one had any idea what she stood for and was clearly not the best nor most qualified for the job. I would suggest it would be difficult to find anyone more qualified by Alito.

And to talk about using Parks for political purposes....funny. Schumer came out and compared Alito and the seat on the SC to Parks and and the seat on the bus. Will he use the seat to change the world for good? Is that solely for political purposes? Maybe, but who cares? It is politics. Parks is in the news, as she should be. If Alito doesn't go pay his respects, he is criticized for not caring. He goes, so it's criticized as a photo op. Yawn.

So it will come down, as it did widely with support for Roberts, as to if someone thinks that Alito will do what they think is correct. Not if he is qualified to hold the position, but if he will vote on cases the way someone thinks he should. I will again point out Ginsburg - I don't agree with much if anything she has ever said or written (that I am familiar with), but she was qualified for the seat, and was rightly confirmed.

If the left does not like this nomination, a nomination of someone apparently very qualified to hold the position, then I would suggest they win the Presidency. Presidents nominate. Does this make me a hypocrit for being less than excited about Miers? I don't think so. She was not what Bush had promised during his campaign.

I will say one thing - it does concern me that he did not recuse himself on the first case involving Vanguard since he had investments with them. That could be cause for concern, so I will be curious to learn more about it.

Gemini Cricket · 10-31-2005, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

^You could be right. Then again this kinda puts the whole Bush is an idiot thing in the trash can if true

I'm sure someone had to give him the idea, you know, with hand motions and finger puppets.

10-31-2005, 07:41 AM	#2
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	And what is it that makes him so extreme that a filibuster would be required? I am personally very excited about this pick. While I don't know a ton about him, he is often referred to as "Scalia-lite" or "ScAlito", but with a more low key temperament than the brilliant (whether you agree with him or not) Scalia. My guess is that he will perform as well as Roberts in hearings and will make the inquisitors on the judiciary committee, once again, look like the mental midgets that they are.
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10-31-2005, 08:08 AM	#4
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	Bush is just trying to change the subject with this nominee. He wants to take away some of the spotlight from his embattled administration by supporting someone that will divide the country again. Pathetic. Here's what's going to happen. The Democrats are going to go after Alito for his ideological views and the Republicans are going to cry foul for what they're doing. BUT this is exactly what the Republicans did to Harriet Miers.
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10-31-2005, 10:14 AM	#6
sleepyjeff Go Hawks Go! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parkrose Posts: 2,632	Bring on the fillibuster......and watch Bush poll numbers climb higher and higher If the Dems really want to get back to the scandals and the war and whatnot they would be smart to step off and let this one in quickly(kinda like Mike Ditka used to do) Otherwise they can stall this nomination and watch Conservative America rush to the Presidents side. __________________ River Guardian-less
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sleepyjeff Go Hawks Go! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parkrose Posts: 2,632	^You could be right. Then again this kinda puts the whole Bush is an idiot thing in the trash can if true __________________ River Guardian-less
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10-31-2005, 10:32 AM	#9
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	I would suggest that conservative America will already be rushing to his side. This is what Bush promised when he was campaigning - conservative justices should he have the opportunity to nominate. He came through with Roberts. Miers was an extraordinary letdown (just because I had no idea what she thought about anything and there were so many more choices available). This is what I expected when he nominated Miers. This should have been who he picked instead of Miers in the first place. This man has been through two prior confirmations, and was confirmed in the Senate both times by 100-0. He was educated at Harvard and Yale (or maybe one of those was princeton - I forget exactly what I read). He has an abundance of experience and a track record for all to see. Contrary to what GC has suggested, Miers was not vilified by the right because of her policies. It was because no one had any idea what she stood for and was clearly not the best nor most qualified for the job. I would suggest it would be difficult to find anyone more qualified by Alito. And to talk about using Parks for political purposes....funny. Schumer came out and compared Alito and the seat on the SC to Parks and and the seat on the bus. Will he use the seat to change the world for good? Is that solely for political purposes? Maybe, but who cares? It is politics. Parks is in the news, as she should be. If Alito doesn't go pay his respects, he is criticized for not caring. He goes, so it's criticized as a photo op. Yawn. So it will come down, as it did widely with support for Roberts, as to if someone thinks that Alito will do what they think is correct. Not if he is qualified to hold the position, but if he will vote on cases the way someone thinks he should. I will again point out Ginsburg - I don't agree with much if anything she has ever said or written (that I am familiar with), but she was qualified for the seat, and was rightly confirmed. If the left does not like this nomination, a nomination of someone apparently very qualified to hold the position, then I would suggest they win the Presidency. Presidents nominate. Does this make me a hypocrit for being less than excited about Miers? I don't think so. She was not what Bush had promised during his campaign. I will say one thing - it does concern me that he did not recuse himself on the first case involving Vanguard since he had investments with them. That could be cause for concern, so I will be curious to learn more about it.
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