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scaeagles 02-23-2008 07:58 AM

I rule my house with an iron claw, WB.:argghh:

Alex 02-23-2008 08:56 AM

Is that because your wife tore off the hand the first time you tried to show her how it would be?

scaeagles 02-23-2008 09:01 AM

No, but that's why I have a peg leg - first time I said "Woman, this is my foot, and it is down".....well, you can imagine the rest. Thus the pirate smilie.

wendybeth 02-23-2008 09:40 AM

Maybe we do need a woman president.:evil:

blueerica 02-23-2008 09:51 AM

Well, I know that McCain's song is Mellencamp's "Pink Houses." What are the songs from the others?

Edited to add: I just read that McCain has Mellencamp's "Our Country" - which would be really annoying... When Edwards used it, it sucked, too. I had read earlier that it was "Pink Houses" which I love... bleh.

I should go look it up. Maybe I can vote best on best taste in campaign songs...

Edit to add II: OK, so Clinton is Celine Dion's "Taking Chances"... bleh.

scaeagles 02-23-2008 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wendybeth (Post 194294)
Maybe we do need a woman president.:evil:

Well, from a war-mongering Republican stand point, that might be good - maybe Hillary would chop off Ahmahdinejad's (or however the hell you spell it) head or something.

blueerica 02-23-2008 10:19 AM

Or something.

Cadaverous Pallor 02-23-2008 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 194174)
Oh c'mon people ... don't you wanna get Bill Clinton back in the White House just to make the Republicans and Conservatives and Fundamentalists' collective blood boil? Even just a teeny bit??

No. Using this tipping point in history as a "gotcha back!" is childish, short-sighted, and destructive. As the others said, it just adds to divisiveness. We want to make America a better place, not "stick it to those jerks". Baggage, baggage, baggage.

Can we live in a world where people try to stop the cycles of divisiveness between the parties, so we can instead reach for solutions to real problems?

Yes we can. ;)



On another note - one of my younger brothers, a registered Republican and definite conservative, has told me that if Obama got the nomination, he'd get his vote in November, despite the fact that he probably does not agree with him on a single issue. He told me that he believes in Obama's leadership, and that that's what we need now. I was shocked to hear that he'd actually vote Democrat.

scaeagles 02-23-2008 01:53 PM

I can name many a great leader throughout history that I wouldn't want as President.

Can someone answer me this - and I mean it sincerely. How are we to end diviseness when people and politicians are passionate yet on directly opposing sides of important and controversial issues? Somethings are not open to compromise. Talking? Not often. This is why I think Obama is a bit naive in his foreign policy aims. There are leaders and nations that don't want to talk, they want the destruction of America or Israel or freedom in general. Abortion is not an issue of compromise for those that believe a fetus is living and those that believe it is a complete issue of the woman's body. Even Iraq is not open to compromise. There are serious issues that people of passion and conscience on both sides cannot compromise on.

BarTopDancer 02-23-2008 02:00 PM

Obama has a better chance of bringing opposing sides to middle ground then anyone else running. It does not appear that Obama will not budge for the sake of not budging. If the other side is willing to give, it seems he will be willing to give to. I don't hold that same view of Clinton or McCain.

My not wanting Clinton to win has nothing to do with returning Bill to the White House. I don't like how she comes across. I don't think she will be willing to compromise. I think she will be a "my way or the highway" President.

I think America is ready for a female President. I don't think that the best candidate for this election is H. Clinton. Nothing to do with her gender.


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