Crystal,
I...grrrr...they... arrgghhh... how can they....roooaaarrr.... when I think about.... grrrrowwwwl... 'save? SAVE?!' .... murmur.... He taught inclusiveness... grrrrr.... plank in your own face... arrrrrr.... pretentiously pious jackanapes.... grooooaaannn!
Signed,
GC

Hmmm...What I don't quite get is the kids thing. I can understand someone disagreeing with people bringing other people into their marriage. I'm not saying they should say something about it or that I personally care what others do, but I can see why some might not agree. But do they think you're going to be performing bisexual acts in front of their kids?

I probably wouldn't let my kids hang out with kids whose parents did certain things I don't approve of. I'm not sure what those things are yet, I probably wouldn't let them go to a house where there is smoking or drinking around them or drug use, etc. But common sense should dictate that your sex life isn't going to affect their children.

This must suck to explain to your kids. I'm sorry.

I think they do. :rolleyes:




Already I'm seeing a change in your demeanor. Sorrow has been replaced by your resolve and sense of self that has always turned me on. You're getting back that "this is me and if you don't like it go f yourself" attitude that I admire so much. You're wonderful just the way you are and I wouldn't change a thing about you, Crystal. :snap:

I love you.

Would you two get a room already?

(feel free to invite anyone else you may wish :evil: )

If someone engages in behavior that I think sufficient cause for me to sever ties, I'm not going to allow my (mythical) children to socialize with them either. So that part makes sense to me, I just disagree with the judgment.

That said, if there is a grapevine version of events going around (which if I recall is how they learned about it), you have to wonder what details are going along with it.

Hmmm...I wonder if you said this cuz you think you'll get one "thrown your way" tonight?

of course, you'd be right :evil:

This is gonna be a looong day :D

I'm not really concerned about the details of what is going along with it through the grapevine. Quite frankly, other people's opinions do not matter to me and if they want to gossip, then they are free to do so. I'm comfortable with who I am and am very secure with myself and my marriage. The only reason any of this has bothered me is because I have been friends with these people for 8 years and it is painful to lose a friendship, and even more painful for me to know that my children will be losing friendships as well.

In regards to not allowing my children to socialize with another's children, I would only allow that if I felt my children were in danger due to the other parent's behavior. My sexuality has absolutely no effect on the children, it's not as if I share any of this info with the kids, or ever behave in a sexual manner around the children. It is just absurd that these people would assume that I would now, knowing that in 8 years I never have. But, hey, their choice and I won't discuss it with them any further,I'm movin' on.

Coming from the "Mommy" angle, even if she hadn't said that your kids weren't welcome to play wither hers anymore I think I would have made sure that they didn't get together. I would be concerned that she would start mouthing off to your kids, who know what she would have filled their heads with. It is one thing to pass judgement on an adult, but when you start attacking the parent behind their back and in front of their kids, that is going too far.

Yep, woe be those who have the misfortune to simply err on the same side that I once erred, and I will judge them with more harshness than I will other errs that be not mine.

This is one prime example of why judgmentalism is BAD. How often are we really judging ourselves and not the purported external objects of our judgment? I don't happen to agree with what Alex says about the necessity of judgment. Perhaps he means simply the necessity of analysis and determination. There's a fine line between such opinion-forming/decision-making and judgmentalism.

I'm not particularly good at staying on the better side of that line, but I wish I were (and so, haha, I will judge you to be pure evil if you happen to also err on the judgy side of the line!).