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scaeagles 03-10-2008 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by wendybeth (Post 197636)
Not one of those, Scaeagles. He scares the hell out of me. I truly think he's whacked out.


I do, too - remember, I described him as reminding me of DeNiro as Capone with a baseball bat.

scaeagles 03-11-2008 06:20 AM

Hmmm...interesting quote from Geraldine Ferraro, former VP candidate and a member of the Clinton team....she's basically saying that Obama is only doing well because he's a black man and everyone is afraid to criticize him. At least that's how I read it.

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If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept.
She goes on to whine about a sexist media. Sheesh. I do feel like the media doesn't criticize Obama, but I think it's because they are all enamoured by him....like the hysterical Saturday Night Live skit from a few weeks ago, if anyone has heard or seen it.

Alex 03-11-2008 06:51 AM

He can't win for losing...or something like that.

Early arguments against Obama from many Democrats was that he couldn't win because he was black. Not that the person saying it cared that he was black but that too many other people would care so for that person to vote for him would be a waste. Now, he's succeeding only because he is black.

There is certainly some excitement about seeing a black man go so far in the process, just as for many there is excitement at seeing a woman do the same. But it is silly to say it is only or primarily because he is black. Al Sharpton or Charles Rangel wouldn't have made it past Iowa.

But certainly it is part of the package. But her being a woman is part of Clinton's package as well.

Moonliner 03-11-2008 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BarTopDancer (Post 197640)
I honestly don't know if I would vote for Hillary if it came down to it. I wouldn't vote for McCain. I'd probably end up being a participant in the "Nader vote".

Even if you decide not to decide you still have made a choice.
- Rush (The band not the blowhole)

Motorboat Cruiser 03-11-2008 07:33 AM

It has been suggested that the one positive aspect to having Hillary be Obama's VP is that it pretty much ensures that nobody would attempt a presidential assassination.

scaeagles 03-11-2008 07:37 AM

I think Hillary would attempt a Presidential assassination.

Ghoulish Delight 03-11-2008 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex (Post 197823)
But certainly it is part of the package. But her being a woman is part of Clinton's package as well.

And then there's Bill's package...

Cadaverous Pallor 03-11-2008 08:27 AM

Geraldine Ferraro?? Wow, they're all coming out of the woodwork now...

Morrigoon 03-11-2008 11:07 AM

Wow, they're reeeeeeeeally reaching, aren't they? The news is so desperate for a "scandal"
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23571095/

Not Afraid 03-11-2008 11:54 AM

I've seen quite a few Che Obama posters (posted in illegal places) around Long Beach. I wonder if the guy who did these is a local.


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