An older family member recently told me that when she explained to her husband that she wasn't in the mood, his only response was that it was her duty as his wife to perform. And though she said, when I asked, that he didn't force her, I honestly don't think she felt she had another choice because it's somewhat ingrained in her that he's right.

Holy. ****ing. Crap.

I agree with what you say about women and slipping back into the rut of "women make babies and dust," but i would dissagree with the above statement that its "easy" for guys. Trust me, it's not. Its not a big heart or kindness that is required - only a bank statement and credit report.

Oy, and I would disagree with this statement. Not that it isn't easy for guys, but the kind of women who are only concerned with a bank statement or a credit report are the shallow ones. And if someone is only pursuing the shallow ones, that's one's own funeral.

I didn't say that it was easy for guys. I said that I didn't think that sexy = competent affected guys to the same degree that it did women, referring to general going about one's business (such as in the workplace).

Oy, then there are alot of shallow ones out there! :rolleyes:

Ok, that's fair. Understood. But I think that would depend on who was in charge. I've had plenty of female bosses that would gladly pass me up for a cute guy anyday and they have. From a historical POV, the same goes for women in the "chased around the desk" department.