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Chernabog 04-03-2008 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BarTopDancer (Post 202625)
Few concerns though - what happens if they can't get to the hospital in time to have a C section? What will happen to the breast milk that develops?

I'm pretty sure the person in question didn't change anything "down there", so a vaginal birth isn't out of the question. And they DID have a double masectomy, so there is no tissue to produce milk, I don't think.

alphabassettgrrl 04-03-2008 08:11 PM

The trans community is upset mostly by Tomas going public. They could lose a lot of ground from the public's fear in response to the pregnancy. Child custody, rights to transition, control over their lives and their right to live as they feel they need to.

My friend wrote the Advocate response. I'm proud of ... well, I know Levi as "her" but he prefers "him".

BarTopDancer 04-03-2008 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chernabog (Post 202631)
I'm pretty sure the person in question didn't change anything "down there", so a vaginal birth isn't out of the question. And they DID have a double masectomy, so there is no tissue to produce milk, I don't think.

If he didn't change anything "down there" then how can he legally be a man and legally married to a[nother] biological woman? I'm totally un-knowledgeable in this area.

Bornieo: Fully Loaded 04-04-2008 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SzczerbiakManiac (Post 202509)

What the F? Did she mistakenly open the freekin' Lost Ark?

I bet there are 6 or 7 hillside homes stuck under those puppies...

Cadaverous Pallor 04-04-2008 08:34 AM

The headline should have been "Transgender Person Pregnant."

It's hard to say "That person is a man" when that person actually has a uterus. This isn't a matter of being insensitive, it's a matter of fact. I'd say "That person identifies as a man".

However, it would seem to me that if you want to remain a viable mother then you want to be a woman. The idea that you can be both simultaneously just sounds like they don't really identify as anything and they want to play both sides. If that's the case, they shouldn't claim they identify as a man, they should claim that they identify as both, which is fine by me, really. It's none of my business whether he/she wants to be masculine, feminine, both, or asexual.

mousepod 04-04-2008 08:37 AM

With apologies to NA.

Morrigoon 04-07-2008 03:30 PM

Have you guys seen this yet? (video link)

Holy crap... a town of 1951 people, and they're removing over *400* children from this polygamy compound!

Here's the text story: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23993440/ (talks more about the polygamy arrests than what a big deal it is to remove a quarter of the population of a town and take them into state custody - which the video link does)

Alex 04-07-2008 04:17 PM

Can anybody point to more information about the initial call to authorities? So far I've not seen much detail but it sounds like they don't know who the girl is.

While I don't really approve of this group (I'm all for polygamy, just not polygamy involving children as the marrying parties) but putting hundreds of children and detaining scores of adults based on an anonymous phone call seems a bit of a stretch. So I'm hoping I just haven't seen that information.

Morrigoon 04-07-2008 04:26 PM

Because it involves sexual abuse of a minor, they can't release the name of the girl. The impression I get though is that they don't know (or haven't revealed) if they've found her.

The women who left did so of their own accord (to whatever extent "voluntarily" is, when authorities are involved).

The impression I get is that some of the underage "kids" removed have kids of their own, also removed. So I'd say there is sufficient evidence there.

Strangler Lewis 04-07-2008 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BarTopDancer (Post 202657)
If he didn't change anything "down there" then how can he legally be a man and legally married to a[nother] biological woman? I'm totally un-knowledgeable in this area.

What is the law in California on defining men and women for marriage? Military service? Affirmative action? Is it based on chromosomes? Parts?


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