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Alex 04-15-2008 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 204820)
Indeed it is standard. Which is why I find it so amazing that when it dared be used against Obama it is found to be so shocking and out of the boundaries of the norm.

I don't find it outside the boundaries of the norm. But I think you'll find that I've spoken against a lot of manufactured outrage issues on all sides over the years.

So I don't see me speaking out against this one outside the norm either.

Just speaking for myself though.

scaeagles 04-15-2008 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 204824)
Perhaps because it comes from people that seem to want for him to fail so desperately that they scrutinize everything he says and does in an attempt to find anything, no matter how trivial, to smear him with. So they leap on this comment with howls of fake outrage; when if, had it been said by one of the other candidates, it would barely have made page 20.

I completely disagree. Obama has been handled gently by the media, like a precious breakable package that we had best not even think about finding fault in.

The Saturday Night Live Skit with the media falling all over themselves like groupies at an Obama press conference is right on the money.

JWBear 04-15-2008 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 204837)
I completely disagree. Obama has been handled gently by the media, like a precious breakable package that we had best not even think about finding fault in.

The Saturday Night Live Skit with the media falling all over themselves like groupies at an Obama press conference is right on the money.

I wasn't referring to the media.

However, ever since that SNL skit, they've been falling all over themselves to be more critical, IMO.

Cadaverous Pallor 04-15-2008 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 204820)
Indeed it is standard. Which is why I find it so amazing that when it dared be used against Obama it is found to be so shocking and out of the boundaries of the norm.

I didn't say it wasn't normal. Hence my distaste for politics, the media, and oh yeah, all of humankind's SNAFU systems.

Ghoulish Delight 04-16-2008 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 204854)
I wasn't referring to the media.

However, ever since that SNL skit, they've been falling all over themselves to be more critical, IMO.

Interestingly, I think SNL's gone the opposite direction. Their first couple of shows post-strike, the jokes were VERY pro-Clinton. As the season's gone on they've skewed a little more balanced in their satire, perhaps even ending up pro-Obama on the whole.

JWBear 04-16-2008 10:15 AM

And Scaeagles... If you want to talk about the media being soft on someone, how about the way the so-called “liberal” press has looked the other way as the Bush administration steamrolled over our rights, trashed the economy, and lied its way into a war. Talk about “handled gently by the media, like a precious breakable package that we had best not even think about finding fault in”!

sleepyjeff 04-16-2008 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 204922)
... If you want to talk about the media being soft on someone, how about the way the so-called “liberal” press has looked the other way as the Bush administration steamrolled over our rights, trashed the economy, and lied its way into a war. Talk about “handled gently by the media, like a precious breakable package that we had best not even think about finding fault in”!

Perhaps you need to put down the Washington Times, turn off the 700 Club, and watch a little CBS and read a little NY Times.....

..just saying;)

scaeagles 04-16-2008 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 204922)
And Scaeagles... If you want to talk about the media being soft on someone, how about the way the so-called “liberal” press has looked the other way as the Bush administration steamrolled over our rights, trashed the economy, and lied its way into a war. Talk about “handled gently by the media, like a precious breakable package that we had best not even think about finding fault in”!

Guess it's all perspective.....I don't think the media has been soft at all on Bush. I will point out that I get in trouble on this board all the time for saying things like "oh yeah? Well how about this related item?!". I remember a media using forged documents to try to help John Kerry win an election, but that's another story.

And I disagree with the premise of your question, anyway, as the three things you have listed, JW, I don't concede are the case at all.

Kevy Baby 04-16-2008 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 204939)
...as I the three things you have listed I don't concede are the case at all.

This sentence should be taken out and shot to put it out of its misery. I had to read it three times to understand WTF you were saying.

:D

scaeagles 04-16-2008 11:24 AM

What are you talking about? I don't see that sentence....:)


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