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Ghoulish Delight 04-17-2008 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 205147)
I think it's because he (Obama) genuinely looks pained to wear it.

I think he looks pained that he's forced to wear it for stupid reasons.

sleepyjeff 04-17-2008 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 205139)
Then why is Obama being pilloried for the same thing? Double standard? Hmmm?

Because he made a point of not wearing it saying that his words alone should be testimony to his patriotism....

and wonder of wonders now that these same words that were supposed to be proof of his patriotism are failing him(ie. the whole guns and religion speech) a little pin finds it's way onto his lapel.

I don't care if he wears one or not and I certainly don't think he is any more or any less of a patriot one way or the other......but apparently he thinks it matters;)

Alex 04-17-2008 02:35 PM

Before I try to decide if this is an indication of change, does anybody know his itinerary today?

Did it possibly include anything where outward symbols of patriotism are more de rigueur? Such as a a speech at an American Legion post, a military base, visiting wounded soldiers in hospitals, etc.?

sleepyjeff 04-17-2008 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex (Post 205159)
Before I try to decide if this is an indication of change, does anybody know his itinerary today?

Did it possibly include anything where outward symbols of patriotism are more de rigueur? Such as a a speech at an American Legion post, a military base, visiting wounded soldiers in hospitals, etc.?

Here you go:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NmZhxltfSi8

JWBear 04-17-2008 02:52 PM

I'm so tired of these meaningless "outrages". If you (generic you, not anyone specific here) think a candidate is unqualified for office because of whether or not they wear a flag pin, or when, or why; or because of something someone else said or did in the past; or because that candidate spoke and uncomfortable truth, then I feel very sorry you. Your priorities are way out of whack.

We need a President who can bring people together to fix the problems this nation has. What we don’t need is posturing and “I’m more patriotic than thou” penis waiving (and that goes for you too, Hilary).

Alex 04-17-2008 02:59 PM

I can't watch YouTube at work, but I know he wasn't at such a place when the photo I saw was taken. But he probably does at least a dozen appearances a day and I doubt he's changing suits between each one.

scaeagles 04-17-2008 03:00 PM

I like what Dr. Thomas Sowell has to say about Obama regarding "bringing people together".

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Senator Obama's election year image is that of a man who can bring the country together, overcoming differences of party or race, as well as solving our international problems by talking with Iran and other countries with which we are at odds, and performing other miscellaneous miracles as needed.

There is, of course, not a speck of evidence that Obama has ever transcended party differences in the United States Senate.

JWBear 04-17-2008 03:04 PM

And of course, you completely missed my point.

sleepyjeff 04-17-2008 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 205166)
We need a President who can bring people together to fix the problems this nation has.

That President doesn't exist......no way can you fix the problems and bring the people together; at best you can get one or the other.

Ghoulish Delight 04-17-2008 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex (Post 205171)
I can't watch YouTube at work, but I know he wasn't at such a place when the photo I saw was taken. But he probably does at least a dozen appearances a day and I doubt he's changing suits between each one.

The YouTube clip is of him speaking to a group of veterans, something about honoring a specific veteran (I gathered this from the comments on the video, I don't have sound on this computer so I don't know the details).

Seems right to me. I hate ties. I don't wear them if I don't have to. But if I'm in a place where there's an unspoken "wear a tie" dress code, I wear a tie. And you just don't speak in front of a veterans' group without some sort of "patriotic" regalia.

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There is, of course, not a speck of evidence that Obama has ever transcended party differences in the United States Senate.
Errr, Lugar-Obama. Coburn-Obama. And many more from his decade+ stint in Illinois. But I suppose facts shouldn't get in the way of good punditry.

As for his voting record being liberal...duh. He's liberal. It's not about voting record. It's about attitude. It's about his ability to talk to everyone like they're adults and not condescend his opponents.


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