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Morrigoon 04-22-2008 02:47 PM

OH, I thought it was yesterday... no wonder there was no info on who won, heheh.

I don't think I'll be "watching" them, but I'm sure we can hardly avoid hearing the outcome at any rate. :)

SacTown Chronic 04-23-2008 12:33 PM

Bill Clinton lying? Imagine that!

blueerica 04-23-2008 12:43 PM

lawls

Morrigoon 04-23-2008 01:05 PM

Ugh, will it ever end?
http://www.newsweek.com/id/133325

scaeagles 04-23-2008 01:09 PM

I hope not. I want them to fight it out until they are both unrecoverably bloodied and the democrat party is fractured beyond all recognition.

Morrigoon 04-23-2008 01:39 PM

You mean until they manage to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory?

scaeagles 04-23-2008 01:43 PM

Why, yes, Morrigoon, that is precisely what I mean.

And I don't think Hillary is going away any time soon. If you look at the electoral college counts of the states Obama and Hillary have each won, Hillary has HUGE advantages. Without FL and MI, she's up 240-141. If you throw those two in, she's up 284-141. That's huge, and you know she knows that, and you know the super delegates know that. She's got big, big mo right now.

Ghoulish Delight 04-23-2008 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 206254)
Why, yes, Morrigoon, that is precisely what I mean.

And I don't think Hillary is going away any time soon. If you look at the electoral college counts of the states Obama and Hillary have each won, Hillary has HUGE advantages. Without FL and MI, she's up 240-141. If you throw those two in, she's up 284-141. That's huge, and you know she knows that, and you know the super delegates know that. She's got big, big mo right now.

Someone needs to remind you and Hillary that electoral college counts matter only in the general election, against John McCain. Whether Hillary can beat Obama in big states is NOT the same question as whether Hillary can do better than Obama against John McCain in big states.

3894 04-23-2008 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 206254)
She's got big, big mo right now.

Pfft. She could only pull that summers-in-Scranton crap in Pennsylvania. Indiana is May 6; Indiana is close to Illinois.

scaeagles 04-23-2008 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 206259)
Someone needs to remind you and Hillary that electoral college counts matter only in the general election, against John McCain. Whether Hillary can beat Obama in big states is NOT the same question as whether Hillary can do better than Obama against John McCain in big states.

Gee, someone, I think I'm aware of that fact. I just find it hard to beleive that with the exit polling data, particularly in PA when something like 60% of Catholics who voted for Hillary in the primary said they would never vote for Obama, that the dem party and super delegates are aware and deathly afraid of this fact.

Hillary isn't going anywhere. Nor should she.


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