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Strangler Lewis 05-01-2008 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 207745)
As far as being in trouble, the whole topic of conversation would be whether or not the republican could keep his religious views out of his governing. He wants to do the Lord's work? What exactly does he think that means? Locking women up in the kitchen with no shoes????? Who's Lord is he referring to?!?!?! We all have our own religious or non religious views and he CAN'T IMPOSE HIS ON ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And these concerns would be legitimate since, at least where the already born are concerned, Republican politicians typically invoke the old time religion in the name of exclusion and intolerance. If some politician wants to (occasionally) humbly cite Jesus's teaching as informing his message of brotherhood and charity, I'm not going to have too much of a problem with it. I believe the vogue phrase these days is "Red Letter Christian."

JWBear 05-01-2008 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 207745)
Not a stretch at all, there, really. Wright says he based his entire philosophy on Cone. Obama says (or has implied, certainly) that Wright is a mentor.

If A = B and B = C then A = C.

The first two parts of the equation are just assumptions on your part, not facts.

scaeagles 05-01-2008 04:19 PM

I would argue that at least the second part of the equation is true enough to most people has caused Obama to react as he has in order to stop the tremendous tide of negative public opinion. I don't think anyone here (perhaps I'm wrong) thinks Obama distancing himself from Wright is anything but political expedience.

Based on Wright saying that Cone and his philosophy are what he based the philosophy of his church on, I would think the first part is relative sound as well.

Kevy Baby 05-01-2008 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex (Post 207750)
While we're using math:

"mentor" != = & ∴ B != C ∴ A != C

That's fuzzy math.

€uroMeinke 05-01-2008 07:32 PM

I don't get the controversy - I mean, so are we supposed to be worried that Obama will stop the infect African americans with aids program, or spoil the next 911 conspiracy?

Not Afraid 05-01-2008 07:43 PM

James Cone, eh? I wonder if I'm related.

scaeagles 05-01-2008 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by €uroMeinke (Post 207797)
I don't get the controversy - I mean, so are we supposed to be worried that Obama will stop the infect African americans with aids program, or spoil the next 911 conspiracy?

Personally, I think it speaks to poor judgment.

innerSpaceman 05-01-2008 08:14 PM

Eh, I'm not the biggest Obama fan ... but if this is the worse that can be flung against him ... say hello to the next President of the United States.

I've rarely seen so much ado about nothing.

€uroMeinke 05-01-2008 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 207806)
Personally, I think it speaks to poor judgment.

I dunno - Bush fell for the whole Weapons of Mass Destruction conspiracy theory and we made him president

scaeagles 05-01-2008 09:00 PM

Bush indeed did, as did his predecessor, but we're talking about Obama.

If this is no big deal, however, why did Obama feel the need to suddenly "see the light" when only a day or two before he had said he could not abandon Wright? It was a political decision made to limit political damage.


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