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Fab 05-07-2008 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by wendybeth (Post 209123)
Studying the American Revolution, especially the drafting of the Articles of Confederation and the Constitution when viewed through the eyes of the original participants, I must say I disagree with your logic. The original patriots would be appalled at our world stance right now- we are little better than England was in our arrogance and imperialistic pursuits, no matter what guise (Democracy) we throw on them. We fought a Revolution over less- what makes you think it can't happen again? Everything is lining up for social upheaval, and it's just getting worse. When it hits you in the pocketbook, I suspect you too will join the ranks of those who cannot afford to be Republican anymore.

Because the majority of Americans are more concerned with who got booted off "Dancing with the Stars" and if Paris Hilton is flashing her privates than boring, complicated things like liberty and justice for all.

Morrigoon 05-07-2008 06:54 PM

Holy reappearing posters, Batman, it's Fab! Hiya!

Fab 05-07-2008 07:07 PM

Hiya! I'm arriving back in SoCal for good June 9. First thing: get a job. Second thing: build a firepit in the backyard. Yep, I have a real-for-real HOUSE now.

JWBear 05-07-2008 09:00 PM

Leave Hillary ALONE!!!!! ;)

sleepyjeff 05-07-2008 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 209291)

:snap: :snap: :snap:

scaeagles 05-09-2008 09:24 AM

What is the definition of a smear? Obama seems to think is he being smeared because of this -

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Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said Thursday that Republican John McCain was "losing his bearings" for repeatedly suggesting the Islamic terrorist group Hamas preferred Obama for president.
However, what McCain is saying is 100% true.

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At the root of the dispute is McCain's decision to call attention to a Hamas adviser's apparent affinity for Obama. The adviser, Ahmed Yousef, said in a recent interview: "We like Obama and hope that he will win the election."
Obama says

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"This is offensive, and I think it's disappointing, because John McCain always says, 'Well, I'm not going to run that kind of politics,'" Obama said. "And then to engage in that kind of smear, I think, is unfortunate, particularly since my policy toward Hamas has been no different than his."
So how is that a smear? Hamas said we want Obama to win. McCain says Hamas wants Obama to win. Obama cries foul.

Ghoulish Delight 05-09-2008 09:38 AM

Call it truthful or not, it's dirty and pathetic to use the propoganda from terrorist organizations as an aid to your campaign. What Hamas says shouldn't be a factor in US elections. Lord knows what their motivation is. It's hardly far-fetched to think that they'd be saying that because they don't want Obama and know that such an endorsement, if believed by voters, would hurt him.

Gemini Cricket 05-09-2008 09:39 AM

Isn't it a smear to associate Obama with the Hamas group's opinion? I mean, who cares who Hamas favors. That is irrelevant to our elections. Just because Hamas favors Obama it doesn't mean anything.

Ghoulish Delight 05-09-2008 09:42 AM

And "smear" != "dishonest". You can use perfectly "truthful" information to unfairly smear someone. Say, by presenting information in such a way that implies an association with something hateful when there is none.

wendybeth 05-09-2008 08:35 PM

Hillary Clinton's camp put out the pic of Barack in Kenyan traditional garb, which was a gift to him from the country of his ancestors. Did they do this to increase his popularity? Not hardly- doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what they were not-so-subtly trying to do. Same for McCain. You know, every time another candidate stoops to this level I feel even better about my choice. He's too clean to do anything but make up stuff about. McCain should be so lucky.


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