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Originally Posted by SacTown Chronic
So they demanded action in Iraq over what they thought was an urgent threat to America's security based on "full info and briefings" provided by....the Bush administration. Yowza!
And let's not forget, since we are engaging in an exercise to defend against revisionist history, the political climate (70% of Americans in favor of attacking) at the time. The dems where guilty of lacking a backbone and going along with the frenzy whipped up by a warmongering administration, I'll grant you that.
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:rolleyes" yeah- that's it. The dems were weak willed helpless and hapless, almost victims, who just could not stand up to anyone. They are not REALLY responsible for any of the opinions that Iraq was a threat, or had WMD's, no, they were just misled, and it's all someone else's fault
The briefings and intel came LONG before the current Bush administration-
do you ever get tired of offering these excuses, justifications or finger pointing at anyone BUT your party?
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Originally Posted by ghoulish delight
Yes, there were people on both sides who truly believed that Iraw was a threat before we went in. But as the issue got pushed, as the time for a decission came, people said, "Okay, let's see the hard evidence, the smoking gun, THEN we'll support it." And what hard evidence came out? Collin Powel with a couple satelite photos of trucks with circles around them. THAT'S when people's "stories changed", and by "stories changed," I mean people stood by their statements that said we shouldn't go in without defnitive proof. And yet we did.
Between you and me, I wouldn't have been surprised to find out that Sadaam DID have a WMD program. But without proof, there was no justification for action. Assume and speculate all you want, but there's a damned good reason part of the foundation of this country involves the addage "innocent until proven guilty." I suppose we should all thank George for demonstrating so vividly why it's important to do more than pay lip service to the values that define our country, and actually uphold them rather then uphold them unless it's convenient not to.
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You can't apply our JUSTICE system to this! I'm sorry- after years of problematic inspections, breaking of cease fires, flaunting every resolution from the UN, and MONTHS of warnings and time to move any WMD or program- we had plenty of proof. How many terrorists did Iraq have to pay money to? How much support of terrorisim do you let them get away with?
They are not subject to the addage of innocent until proven guilty-
you seem to want to apply US citizen principles to world issues or foreign people- it doesn't work that way. They don't get the innocent until proven guilty anymore than foreign NON-uniformed terrorist get the protection of OUR Constitution.