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Old 06-20-2005, 08:59 AM   #48
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Scrooge - why do you think I would defend that? What have I said to make you think I would defned beating anyone close to death? Have I not said the perps from Abu Ghraib should be prosectued? Of course those responsible for the beating should be prosecuted, and prosecuted under the UCMJ, which I believe has much more strict penalties than the US justice system.

However, I would not believe in any way that this would be indicative of daily happenings. Here's my reasoning - if this was something that was happening regularly to detainees, would the higher ups who ordered this training exercise have done so with a US MP? That would be the equivalent of taking a bomb squad member and training them with live explosives in the field. If it was a pattern, the commanders would not risk what happened for obvious reasons. Can I say that it hasn't happened to a detainee? No. Can I say prisoners in the US justice system are never beaten by guards? No. Can I say that policemen never abuse those they arrest? No. Is is all wrong? Yes. Do I believe that anyone of those are commonplace or the norm? No.

Also, I would offer that what Durbin quoted did not include anything of being chained to the floor without food or water for days. There was no time period for that long - at least not observed by the person who wrote what Durbin quoted. I will offer that I have no way of knowing how long they are chained that way, but also that the FBI agent who wrote that does not either.
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