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Old 07-28-2010, 12:27 PM   #37
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True, but then the absence of the dreamer from a particular scene becomes the new plothole. For example, in the snow level, action is shown taking place in at least three distinct locations at the same time. No one person was present for everything shown.
How is this a new plothole? I thought we solved a slew of plotholes by positing that dreamers needn't be present in all scenes of their own dreams. As you point out, this was clearly true of the snow level - so it's set up as the film's own internal logic - - and thus my theory of Cobb as the dreamer of the entire shibang holds water. Heck, even mousepod's theory of Mal as the dreamer works in this scenario.

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That's possible, I thought he was Cobb's father but may have missed/forgot something. Steve, since you've seen it twice do you recall anything explicit one way or the other?
Ha! Haven't you realized yet that, though I've seen it twice, I'm not retaining as many details as people who barely sat through the trailer?

But, no, I don't recall any dialogue one way or the other, just that the relationship didn't seem like father-son to me.




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They also spent times in constructed realities within Limbo. It was said that Limbo was unconstructed empty dreamspace or whatever you yourself created in it. I took melting to meant that you'd go crazy from a near-eterinity in sensory deprivation.
So where is this sensory-deprivation limbo and how do you get there? Certainly Mal and Cobb's 50-years-together limbo was not this limbo then. And the "limbo" that Cobb rescued Saito from was not a limbo either. Why did he need rescuing? It was clearly told that Saito would be doomed to limbo if he died so deep in dream levels ... but that's not what happened at all. He lived a full life in familiar surroundings. I call shenanigans!



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Presumably they were in limbo for only a few hours at most in real time. During the limbo explanation it was shown several times that they were lying on their living room floor (same house as he returns to at the end) dreaming. Presumably somebody would have found them and awoken them if they'd been out for much longer than that (having kids and all).
Ah, 'natch. I still want an internet Inception Dream Time Calculator though.
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