Executions by Lethal Injection May Not Be Humane

BarTopDancer · 04-14-2005, 10:20 AM

Here is the story.

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Lethal injection involves sequential administration of sodium thiopental for anesthesia, pancuronium bromide to induce paralysis, and then potassium chloride to stop the heart and cause death. If anesthesia wasn't used, the condemned prisoner would suffocate and experience excruciating pain without being able to move.

I'm not sure how I feel about the death penalty in general; however it baffles me why we're so concerned that murders, who probably didn't care about the pain and fear their victims felt have a painless death.

Ghoulish Delight · 04-14-2005, 10:23 AM

Well, I read this somewhere once...

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Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Nephythys · 04-14-2005, 10:51 AM

Throwing the Constitution at us does no good....

Cutting off ears as punishment was not considered cruel and unusual by Constituional law- does it make right? No, but it does not make it UN-Constitutional.

Ghoulish Delight · 04-14-2005, 10:58 AM

She asked why it's a concern. It's a concern because of that ammendment. It is the only answer to her question.

Prudence · 04-14-2005, 11:04 AM

The Constitution is not a static document. Slavery was once constitutional. Limiting voting rights to free, white, male landowners was once constitutional. The eighth amendment may not be interpreted today the same way it was in 1791. I hardly think that renders the Constitution worthless.

Cadaverous Pallor · 04-14-2005, 11:33 AM

Ugh. Yet another issue where it's all about the visuals.

It's been maintained for a long time that the guilloutine is among the most humane of killings because it's basically instantaneous. But since chopping off someone's head seems so grody, we need to inject them with chemicals so we can't see the death happening. Lordy.

I'm still undecided on the death penalty, but I believe this: If we are going to kill people, let's at least do it quickly.

Not Afraid · 04-14-2005, 12:01 PM

YEAH! Bring back the guilloutine!

This sentence sort of make this issue moot:

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If anesthesia wasn't used, the condemned prisoner would suffocate and experience excruciating pain without being able to move.

But anesthesia IS used, so what's the point?

Baileykat · 04-14-2005, 12:33 PM

Glad you posted this BTD!

I'm sorry...I always think the punishment should fit the crime! You kill someone in cold, heartless murder...you don't deserve to have the protection of the Constitution in regards to your death! Did your victim have a "nice, painless, death"? And often times, I think death is too easy! Prison is too easy! Suffering is not! Your victim suffered, you need to suffer as well!

Bring back public stoneings and hanging!

No this is not a Pro-Death Penalty rant (ok maybe a little!)..it just kinda rubbed me the wrong way to read that in the paper this morning...

Ghoulish Delight · 04-14-2005, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Not Afraid

But anesthesia IS used, so what's the point?

The point is that some evidence is showing that anesthesia has not been used properly.

Not Afraid · 04-14-2005, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

The point is that some evidence is showing that anesthesia has not been used properly.

Well, then, the "death Eaters" need to be re-trained.

04-14-2005, 10:51 AM	#3
Nephythys Yeah, that's about it- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In a state of constant crap to get done Posts: 2,688	Throwing the Constitution at us does no good.... Cutting off ears as punishment was not considered cruel and unusual by Constituional law- does it make right? No, but it does not make it UN-Constitutional.
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04-14-2005, 10:58 AM	#4
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	She asked why it's a concern. It's a concern because of that ammendment. It is the only answer to her question. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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Prudence Beelzeboobs, Esq. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Gavel - I haz it Posts: 6,287	The Constitution is not a static document. Slavery was once constitutional. Limiting voting rights to free, white, male landowners was once constitutional. The eighth amendment may not be interpreted today the same way it was in 1791. I hardly think that renders the Constitution worthless. __________________ traguna macoities tracorum satis de
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04-14-2005, 11:33 AM	#6
Cadaverous Pallor ohhhh baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parental Bliss Posts: 12,364	Ugh. Yet another issue where it's all about the visuals. It's been maintained for a long time that the guilloutine is among the most humane of killings because it's basically instantaneous. But since chopping off someone's head seems so grody, we need to inject them with chemicals so we can't see the death happening. Lordy. I'm still undecided on the death penalty, but I believe this: If we are going to kill people, let's at least do it quickly. __________________ The second star to the right shines in the night for you
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Baileykat Hotel Expert! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: follow the yellow brick road and take a left Posts: 396	Glad you posted this BTD! I'm sorry...I always think the punishment should fit the crime! You kill someone in cold, heartless murder...you don't deserve to have the protection of the Constitution in regards to your death! Did your victim have a "nice, painless, death"? And often times, I think death is too easy! Prison is too easy! Suffering is not! Your victim suffered, you need to suffer as well! Bring back public stoneings and hanging! No this is not a Pro-Death Penalty rant (ok maybe a little!)..it just kinda rubbed me the wrong way to read that in the paper this morning... __________________ Me:"Bailey you need to eat some fruit! Fruit never killed anyone!" Bailey" "Yes it did..Snow White!"
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