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Someone get this man a gold star!
I avoided all news outlets after I heard about that too. Just in case. |
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Am I the only one who sees the problem with the treatment option for the woman in this story?
So she starves her 1 year old son to death due to blindly following a religious cult...and the treatment includes bible study? Ummmm....
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The judge not only threw out (okay, suspended, whatever) her 20 year sentence and forced her into "treatment" that includes religious indoctrination? Are you fücking kidding me judge?!? Please re-read the First Amendment. |
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Yes, the Bible will teach her that when God asks you to kill your child, it's only a test. He doesn't really mean it. He will, however, kill the children of your enemies. Ultimately, if really pissed, he will kill his own son, but just for a while, which triggers the favorable portions of his plea deal.
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Well, I always have an issue with any government mandated program that has a religious requirement (but I won't go into detail because I don't want to piss off people here again) so just on that level I've got issues.
That said, if she is of such a strongly religious bent that she starved her child it might be better to wean her on a form of religion that does not starve children rather than asking her to go cold turkey. |
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I like to think that if the gov't ever gave me a religious requirement of any kind, I'd take it all the way to the Supreme Court.
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I wouldn't suggest isolating her from religion cold turkey. And I understand that religiosity (whether it's generic bible study, or generic spirituality) are easy and, by some measures, effective shortcuts in a system that simply has to rely on shortcuts to point people towards a better path. And I have no doubt it works for a lot of people. And I know the judge didn't say, "Put her in bible study, that'll learn her!" it just is part of the default program. It just happens that a case like this points out the shortcomings of relying exclusively on those shortcuts. I have no problem with access to religious outlets being part of recovery programs, as long as there's some choice invovled.
but I don't know, it's not like the article has details. There's nothing that says that participation in bible study is compulsory, so maybe it's over reaction, and Alex is right, I can't argue that mainstream religious oxposure probably would still do her some good. But I can't shake the eerie feeling I get when I think of it as treating someone who clearly doesn't process religious thinking very well with more religion.
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How about the part of her plea deal thatsays " If Javon comes back to life, the plea will be withdrawn" Seriously WTF!!??! What kind of court room was this!
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