Not too early is it? 2008 Presidential fun

[Nephythys]

No- it's there for a good reason.

Of course- do the people who want to get rid of it really want to gut the middle of the country from representation? The elections would be held on the west and east coast and to hell with everyone else.

Sorry- with all due respect but I think people who want to abolish it don't really understand it or why we have it.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by Moonliner

Now that you bring it up... The electoral college is a bit of an anachronism. Don't you think we would be better off without it?

No, I don't.

So long as we still have the idea of federalism then it isn't an anachronism. If you're also willing to abolish states then the electoral college will become an anachronism.

That said, the proportionality of the electoral college is out of whack but there is a very easy solution to that.

[Nephythys]

Succinct.

[€uroMeinke]

I'd like to see Hillary just to have the Husband Wife combination as a future trivia question interspersed with a father son combination. Thank god we don't have any monarchies in this country.

Obama's name is just to funny - most people won't believe he's American.

Edwards is a lovable lumberjack, so people will think he's Canadian.

Gulliani made the subways run on time or something like that, Time Square and Disney - that bodes good for national leaders.

Mc Cains' house is decorated with too much Americana - he's trying to hard, I'd rather a president with simpler lines.

[Isaac]

I'm voting for Hillary, if for no other reason, to see Bill Clinton become the first lady.

[wendybeth]

Think he'll bake cookies?

[innerSpaceman]

Perhaps it's a little too early ... but Hillary is miles ahead of any of her dem competitors for the presidency. She may be polarizing ... but she's got name recognition up the wahzoo. Many democrats like her, and plenty of republican women will vote for her as a woman. Don't count out the number of people who already look back at the Clinton years with wistful longing. Bush has seen to that. A vote for Hillary in the White House is a vote for Bill in the White House ... a fact not to be underestimated.


I don't particularly like her ... but she'd have to completely self-destruct for me not to vote for the first women candidate I could stand. For a person who thinks all presidents pretty much suck, the chance to make an historic mark weighs more importantly than mere issues. (And, heheh, the first First Lady to become President and the first President to become the first First Gentleman, all in one fell swoop, is a nifty historical presidential precedent, too.)

[Alex]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Perhaps it's a little too early ...

As I read somewhere recently, at this point in the 2004 cycle, the lead polling Democrat was Joe Lieberman (John Kerry was fourth). For 1992, at this point Bill Clinton was 11th behind Mario Cuomo, Jesse Jackson, Richard Gephardt, George McGovern, Lloyd Bentsen, Al Gore, Sam Nunn, Jay Rockefeller, Bill Bradley, and George Mitchell.

Obama (or some other person out of left field, like Howard Dean in 2003) has plenty of time to get the name recognition up.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

Hillary is actually one of the few prominent Democrats to stand by her position on Iraq. I respect her for that quite a bit.

My source being SNL means I have no idea if this is true or not, but they made it seem like Hillary visited Iraq just when Obama said he's running, so that she could come back and say "since I've been there, I've changed my mind on Iraq. We need to get out". The idea being that since Obama is running she has to up her game.

[Alex]

I can't say that I have heard much of what she's had to say over the last couple weeks. So I'll just say that until recently she has held her line much more than most of the prominent Dems who voted for the war.