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Old 01-23-2007, 10:38 AM   #1
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Hillary is actually one of the few prominent Democrats to stand by her position on Iraq. I respect her for that quite a bit.

Nobody seems to be bringing it up. But remember when people questioned Bill Clinton about whether the first lady was too involved in policy? It seems to me that issue is only magnified 1000x if the "first lady" is a former president. I also wonder if those on the left who criticized Bush simply for being a "dynasty presidency" will have similar qualms about Hillary (and if the the people on the right who didn't care about a dynasty presidency will resist having issue issue with it now).

I'm not really bothered by Obama's lack of experience. I don't think it is a job that really has much in the way of "ramp up" training (except maybe being a governor) and being a senator certainly doesn't provide any training except in the realm of political gamesmanship.

As far as whatever connection he has with Islam, the simple response to that is "I am not a Muslim, but with our current global situation doesn't it seem like a positive to have a president that knows something about it?"

I respect Guiliani but think he'd be a horrible president. I don't respect McCain but he might be decent at it (though I am unlikely to vote for him).
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Old 01-23-2007, 10:54 AM   #2
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Hillary - too polarizing. Well said, scaeagles. She's also from the Northeast and the last two Dem presidential candidates from the Northeast didn't do well.

Edwards plays well in the Midwest. An Edwards/Obama ticket would be intriguing.
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Old 01-23-2007, 01:45 PM   #3
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Hillary is actually one of the few prominent Democrats to stand by her position on Iraq. I respect her for that quite a bit.

Nobody seems to be bringing it up. But remember when people questioned Bill Clinton about whether the first lady was too involved in policy? It seems to me that issue is only magnified 1000x if the "first lady" is a former president. I also wonder if those on the left who criticized Bush simply for being a "dynasty presidency" will have similar qualms about Hillary (and if the the people on the right who didn't care about a dynasty presidency will resist having issue issue with it now).

I'm not really bothered by Obama's lack of experience. I don't think it is a job that really has much in the way of "ramp up" training (except maybe being a governor) and being a senator certainly doesn't provide any training except in the realm of political gamesmanship.

As far as whatever connection he has with Islam, the simple response to that is "I am not a Muslim, but with our current global situation doesn't it seem like a positive to have a president that knows something about it?"

I respect Guiliani but think he'd be a horrible president. I don't respect McCain but he might be decent at it (though I am unlikely to vote for him).
Nail on the head with this post, all the way around. Thus far, I like Obama. His relative inexperience actually makes me want to vote for him- he's not entrenched, doesn't see this as his rightful due (or 'turn', as with the Bush family) and he has unique life experiences that are very relevant in today's world. Hillary would be fun, if only to let Scaeagles know how I felt when Dubya was elected, but I'm not willing to vote for her merely because I know it would piss Scaeagles off.
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Old 01-23-2007, 10:25 PM   #4
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Hillary is actually one of the few prominent Democrats to stand by her position on Iraq. I respect her for that quite a bit.
My source being SNL means I have no idea if this is true or not, but they made it seem like Hillary visited Iraq just when Obama said he's running, so that she could come back and say "since I've been there, I've changed my mind on Iraq. We need to get out". The idea being that since Obama is running she has to up her game.
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Old 01-23-2007, 10:36 PM   #5
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I can't say that I have heard much of what she's had to say over the last couple weeks. So I'll just say that until recently she has held her line much more than most of the prominent Dems who voted for the war.
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