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Old 07-09-2008, 09:56 PM   #101
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Helms, and many others, could have learned a lesson from Robert Byrd.
He hung up his robes, didn't he? Good for him.
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Old 07-09-2008, 11:16 PM   #102
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What a freaking moronic thing for Huckabee to have said. Especially in light of recent political gaffes.


Wasn't it scant weeks agot that Hillary Clinton got in trouble for retardely invoking the assassination of Robert Kennedy? I truly believe she was simply trying to remind everyone that many nomination battles went on in June ... and how many such June nomination campaigns are going to be remembered any where near as much as the one where a famous pol got assassinated in June?


But, considering her opponent is black, it was a stupid thing to say ... because it was too connected with political assassination.


Huckabee is a retard. Helms' firm convictions are too connected with hate and intolerance. What a maroon.
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Old 07-10-2008, 12:13 AM   #103
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We've been nearly eight years with someone who thinks he's sticking to his guns- look where we're at. I know of many other people who did the same, and it didn't work out very well for them either. (Not mentioning names, as Godwin's will kick in). There's something to be said for being willing to see the shades of grey in life and adjusting ones thinking when appropriate.
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Old 07-10-2008, 02:21 AM   #104
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(Not mentioning names, as Godwin's will kick in).
Say what you will about Hitler . . .

And Bopper, whatever one might theoretically be able to say about Helms's convictions on issues other than race, in the real world, you can't compliment Helms and criticize Obama in the same sentence without sending the message that it's okay not to like black people.
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Old 07-10-2008, 10:13 AM   #105
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I forget the name (sorry), but some dude who's the head of the North Carolina Dept. of Agriculture resigned rather than fly the flag at half-staff in honor of thankfully departed Jesse Helms.


Now THAT's sticking to your guns when appropriate and when there's personal sacrifice involved.


Mojo to, um, the guy whose name I forget.
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Old 07-10-2008, 12:52 PM   #106
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His name is L.F. Eason III. He wasn't the head of the NCDoA, rather, he is the director of the state Standards Laboratory. But great story none-the-less.
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Old 07-10-2008, 12:59 PM   #107
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I don't know. Seems like a silly battle to end your career on.

I'd be perfectly happy to see Helms unacknowledged, but it is a pretty standard fact of life that things like this are going to happen. It isn't like he was told he needed to personally lower the flag and then stand under it telling everybody how sad he was at Helm's passing.

It is cool that if he feels it that important he was willing to make the sacrifice. It just seems a bit foolish to me that he'd consider it that important.
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Old 07-10-2008, 01:06 PM   #108
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I would have just flown the Southern Cross at half-staff.
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Old 07-10-2008, 01:22 PM   #109
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Thanks for the correction, Kevy. Well, all the more important for Eason to uphold some Standards, eh?
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Well, all the more important for Eason to uphold some Standards, eh?
OK now for some reason I'm picturing him retiring to his ranch, Eason West, which is conveniently located next to Upson Downs. It's completely restricted!

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