Yes, we can. - Page 134

Gemini Cricket · 07-10-2008, 12:25 AM

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"See, Barack's been talking down to black people ... I want to cut his nuts off." ~ Rev. Jesse Jackson

My, my! What horrible fantasies this reverend has!

scaeagles · 07-10-2008, 06:33 AM

I find this fascinating on so many fronts.

My first thought is that it was staged. The unbreakable and first rule of wearing a mic is that it is ALWAYS on and Jackson knows this. I am almost going conspiratorial on this and thinking it was staged. Obama is in the midst of a HUGE attempt to appear as if he is in the center (which has moved him to flip flop even more than McCain is at present - a hard thing to do indeed), so why not set it up to have people like Jackson talk badly about him?

Then I think that I'm wrong. It could simply be petty jealousy. Or even legit disagreement that Jackson vented in an unfortunate way (for him - no matter the reason, this is beneficial to Obama).

Then I think if this was a white person he would be crucified. Jackson is getting off easy.

Very interesting indeed.

flippyshark · 07-10-2008, 07:18 AM

I kind of doubt that Jackson would go along with a conspiracy that required him to purposefully make himself the bad guy. On the other hand, he has frequently volunteered to be a phobic dumbass all on his own.

I just love that his apology for this contains a mention of "I wasn't speaking on record," as if that diminishes the offensiveness of the remark. (It's like when you get this from some so-called friend - "Gosh, I'm sorry you overheard me calling you an asshole. I didn't mean for you to hear it. Honestly. So, we're cool, right?") He gave the exact same lame non-justification when he referred to NYC's Jewish constituency as "hymietown." He apologized and immediately indicated that it was a private remark. Hell, that makes it even worse, doesn't it?

Okay, I've rolled my eyes enough for today.

BarTopDancer · 07-10-2008, 08:57 AM

Rolling Stone has a great article on Obama, how he put his campaign crew together and some of their inner workings.

BarTopDancer · 07-10-2008, 08:59 AM

So Jackson thinks Obama is talking down to "black people" because he speaks like the educated man he is and he doesn't speak to them like they are stupid?

I'm confused.

innerSpaceman · 07-10-2008, 10:19 AM

Well, I agree with Jackson's sentiment. Obama's recent rant about black dads abandoning their kids was, although identifying a true problem, way off the mark and very insulting in insisting it was the root of all problems for blacks in America.

Not to excuse either Jackson's stupidity with a microphone or assholery with personal sentiment.

mousepod · 07-10-2008, 10:37 AM

Clinton votes "no" on FISA - McCain sits it out - Obama votes "yes".

I'm not loving Obama today.

Morrigoon · 07-10-2008, 10:38 AM

FISA?

Ghoulish Delight · 07-10-2008, 10:43 AM

Sh*t, really? F*cker.

scaeagles · 07-10-2008, 10:46 AM

Obama is doing everything he can to move to the center. This is just one of many things recently that he has changed his position on to do so.

07-10-2008, 06:33 AM	#1332
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	I find this fascinating on so many fronts. My first thought is that it was staged. The unbreakable and first rule of wearing a mic is that it is ALWAYS on and Jackson knows this. I am almost going conspiratorial on this and thinking it was staged. Obama is in the midst of a HUGE attempt to appear as if he is in the center (which has moved him to flip flop even more than McCain is at present - a hard thing to do indeed), so why not set it up to have people like Jackson talk badly about him? Then I think that I'm wrong. It could simply be petty jealousy. Or even legit disagreement that Jackson vented in an unfortunate way (for him - no matter the reason, this is beneficial to Obama). Then I think if this was a white person he would be crucified. Jackson is getting off easy. Very interesting indeed.
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flippyshark Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,852	I kind of doubt that Jackson would go along with a conspiracy that required him to purposefully make himself the bad guy. On the other hand, he has frequently volunteered to be a phobic dumbass all on his own. I just love that his apology for this contains a mention of "I wasn't speaking on record," as if that diminishes the offensiveness of the remark. (It's like when you get this from some so-called friend - "Gosh, I'm sorry you overheard me calling you an asshole. I didn't mean for you to hear it. Honestly. So, we're cool, right?") He gave the exact same lame non-justification when he referred to NYC's Jewish constituency as "hymietown." He apologized and immediately indicated that it was a private remark. Hell, that makes it even worse, doesn't it? Okay, I've rolled my eyes enough for today.
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BarTopDancer Prepping... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Here, there, everywhere Posts: 11,405	So Jackson thinks Obama is talking down to "black people" because he speaks like the educated man he is and he doesn't speak to them like they are stupid? I'm confused. __________________ Spork is the new MacGyver Postcards From My Edge
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Well, I agree with Jackson's sentiment. Obama's recent rant about black dads abandoning their kids was, although identifying a true problem, way off the mark and very insulting in insisting it was the root of all problems for blacks in America. Not to excuse either Jackson's stupidity with a microphone or assholery with personal sentiment. Last edited by innerSpaceman : 07-10-2008 at 10:31 AM.
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mousepod You broke your Ramadar! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,635	Clinton votes "no" on FISA - McCain sits it out - Obama votes "yes". I'm not loving Obama today. __________________ "Give the public everything you can give them, keep the place as clean as you can keep it, keep it friendly" - Walt Disney
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Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	FISA? __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Sht, really? Fcker. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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07-10-2008, 10:46 AM	#1340
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Obama is doing everything he can to move to the center. This is just one of many things recently that he has changed his position on to do so.
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