Elizabeth Dole Says "Fück You" To Americans With AIDS

SzczerbiakManiac · 07-16-2008, 10:19 AM

Are you kidding me Liddy? You want to rename an AIDS funding bill after the late and unlamented Jesse Helms?

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Originally Posted by Joe. My. God. (language NSFW)
Jesse Helms, the man who in 1987 described AIDS prevention literature as "so obscene, so revolting, I may throw up."

Jesse Helms, the man who in 1988 vigorously opposed the Kennedy-Hatch AIDS research bill, saying, "There is not one single case of AIDS in this country that cannot be traced in origin to sodomy."

Jesse Helms, the man who in 1995 said (in opposition to refunding the Ryan White Act) that the government should spend less on people with AIDS because they got sick due to their "deliberate, disgusting, revolting conduct."

Jesse Helms, the man who in 2002 announced that he'd changed his mind about AIDS funding for Africa, but not for American gays, because homosexuality "is the primary cause of the doubling and redoubling of AIDS cases in the United States."

Liddy, do ya think maybe, just maybe, that you could find a more appropriate bill to remember him by?

Kevy Baby · 07-16-2008, 10:32 AM

Well, there is a small part of me that would find this funny (if the re-naming went through). It would be like rubbing his nose in his own idiocy by naming something he would have voted against (and spent his whole life rallying against) after him.

But I still say no.

BTW: so far, I can only find one link to this story (besides the one above) and it is basically a link to the Joe.My.God story. I would really like to see more on this.

Gemini Cricket · 07-16-2008, 11:08 AM

Half of me says, 'Ugh!' the other half of me finds it funny.

LSPoorEeyorick · 07-16-2008, 11:32 AM

Yeah, me too. I mean, she can't mean this any way but ironically, right?

...right?

Moonliner · 07-16-2008, 11:52 AM

Seeing as how I live near "Regan National Airport" this whole issue sounds like business as usual for our Marie Antoinette'ish government.

Morrigoon · 07-16-2008, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LSPoorEeyorick

Yeah, me too. I mean, she can't mean this any way but ironically, right?

...right?

I would hope so. This is a woman who held a major position in the Red Cross, after all. And in an ironic sense, it's the ultimate f-you to Helms.

Chernabog · 07-16-2008, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by LSPoorEeyorick

Yeah, me too. I mean, she can't mean this any way but ironically, right?

...right?

I don't know, maybe her position on "abstinence-only" prevention would be telling (which I honestly don't know).

innerSpaceman · 07-16-2008, 12:48 PM

But Moonie is right. Regan Airport is not an ironic tribute to the traffic controllers he made a point of screwing over.

This is not irony by Libby. It's the same old fvck you.

Alex · 07-16-2008, 01:25 PM

A few things, though this is, regardless, a PR blunder of biggy proportions:

1. I've seen it reported that she is trying to remove Henry Hyde's name from the title of the bill and replace it with Jesse Helms. That's not accurate, the proposed amendment changes "This act may be cited as the Tom Lantos and Henry J. Hyde ..." to "This act may be cited as the Tom Lantos, Henry J. Hyde, and Jesse Helms..."

2. Tom Lantos and Henry Hyde both recently passed away so it is possible that Dole (or which ever staffer put this in front of her for rubber stamping) didn't think it through and just though the bill name was just a tribute to recently deceased congress critters and that Helms should be included.

3. It isn't just an AIDS funding bill but also a bill for funding efforts against malaria and tuberculosis. I have no idea where Helms stood on those issues.

But if done out of spite or some sense that Helms specifically should be mentioned on the issue of AIDS it is pretty skanky. I'm not familiar in detail with her specific policy positions on gay rights, AIDS research, etc., so for a bit I'll give the benefit of the doubt on this just being an ill-considered pro forma amendment.

Gn2Dlnd · 07-16-2008, 01:27 PM

Well, reading the page from the Congressional Record, it does look as if Libby may indeed have been making a "funny." The bill is regarding the appropriations for fiscal years 2009-2013 to provide assistance to foreign countries to combat HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis, malaria, etc. The amendment proposed (among other amendments by other people) would have added Helms' name to the bill, and the amendment was tabled.

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Moonliner 8/30/14 - Disneyland -10k or Bust. Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 9,022	Seeing as how I live near "Regan National Airport" this whole issue sounds like business as usual for our Marie Antoinette'ish government. __________________ - Taking it one step at a time.
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	But Moonie is right. Regan Airport is not an ironic tribute to the traffic controllers he made a point of screwing over. This is not irony by Libby. It's the same old fvck you.
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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	A few things, though this is, regardless, a PR blunder of biggy proportions: 1. I've seen it reported that she is trying to remove Henry Hyde's name from the title of the bill and replace it with Jesse Helms. That's not accurate, the proposed amendment changes "This act may be cited as the Tom Lantos and Henry J. Hyde ..." to "This act may be cited as the Tom Lantos, Henry J. Hyde, and Jesse Helms..." 2. Tom Lantos and Henry Hyde both recently passed away so it is possible that Dole (or which ever staffer put this in front of her for rubber stamping) didn't think it through and just though the bill name was just a tribute to recently deceased congress critters and that Helms should be included. 3. It isn't just an AIDS funding bill but also a bill for funding efforts against malaria and tuberculosis. I have no idea where Helms stood on those issues. But if done out of spite or some sense that Helms specifically should be mentioned on the issue of AIDS it is pretty skanky. I'm not familiar in detail with her specific policy positions on gay rights, AIDS research, etc., so for a bit I'll give the benefit of the doubt on this just being an ill-considered pro forma amendment.
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Gn2Dlnd Parmmadore Jim Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Casita del Queso Posts: 3,810	Well, reading the page from the Congressional Record, it does look as if Libby may indeed have been making a "funny." The bill is regarding the appropriations for fiscal years 2009-2013 to provide assistance to foreign countries to combat HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis, malaria, etc. The amendment proposed (among other amendments by other people) would have added Helms' name to the bill, and the amendment was tabled. __________________ Does anyone still wear a hat?
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