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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

I also see the frustration of many gay couples when the gay community and others expect them to be some sort of role model for the world. C'mon, Jim and George, show the world how normal two gay guys can be. Look at them, they're normal just like you straights. Isn't that great? Lots of gays and lesbians just want to be quiet people living their lives. It isn't their responsibility to be some sort of diplomats or counselors to straight or even closeted close-minded people.

Oh, I can imagine the frustration. But how will their minds ever change about the validity of gay people, gay marriage, gay rights... if we don't help them see it? Lots of black people wanted to live quiet lives AND have equal rights. But when it's time for social upheaval, if you want it to happen, you have to make it happen yourselves. I know - frustrating.

For the record, I don't think you have to be tolerant of his religious beliefs. Because - I've been ruminating on this for a few days now... there's a big difference between treating someone with respect and ACTUALLY respecting what they believe. I don't actually respect the opinion that homosexuality is immoral. But when discussing it with someone who does, I try to show them respect. Because I do understand that people's beliefs differ, and their beliefs are a part of them. It's often the only way to get through to someone who is ignorant. And yes, while they're choosing ignorance, a lot of them haven't been challenged to see things differently. (I know this was the case with my mother.) It's up to us to challenge them, whether we like it or not.

I wouldn't ever tell you to back down! On the contrary, I call us all to action.