Yes, we can.

[innerSpaceman]

Nothing to do with this thread, but I completely disagree about "pride"

It's got nothing to do with how others regard you. By definition, it's how you regard yourself. Whether you choose to base your self-regard on how others regard you is optional. But the word refers only to self-regard.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Nothing to do with this thread, but I completely disagree about "pride"

It's got nothing to do with how others regard you. By definition, it's how you regard yourself. Whether you choose to base your self-regard on how others regard you is optional. But the word refers only to self-regard.

I was discussing "National pride" not personal. However in either case I think how my friends feel about me and my actions is very directly tied to my own sense of pride. If all my friends think I'm acting like a petulant child then my pride suffers.

Using an internal gauge separate from the outside world seems less like pride and more like Ego.

[CoasterMatt]

That's what my heart yearns for now - love and pride.
That's what my heart yearns for now - love and pride.

Start your journey early or maybe later
get your boots on

Look for rainbows
it's cloudy

Take your hairdryer
blow them all away.

In you I've found a story I want to keep hearing.
In you I see all colours
not just black or white.
In you I find a reason and hope for all dreamers

You are my fill
you're my supply of love and pride.
That's what my heart yearns for now - love and pride. . . .

Knowing
sensing
seeing
eating
sleeping
that's just being.
Touching
testing
loving
wanting and taking

more love and more pride.
In you I've found a story I want to keep hearing. . . .

I'm taking it round the world - some love and pride.
That's what my heart yearns for now - love and pride. . . .
That's what my heart yeanis for now - love and pride. . . .



And now back to your regularly scheduled thread...

[Kevy Baby]

How did a discussion of a group of lions come into this thread?

[SacTown Chronic]

I am extremely proud to be a white American male. It took foresight and a lot of planning to get the conditions of my birth exactly as I wanted them.

[wendybeth]

Originally Posted by SacTown Chronic

I am extremely proud to be a white American male. It took foresight and a lot of planning to get the conditions of my birth exactly as I wanted them.

Good one, Sac.

[JWBear]

I haven't been proud to be an American since 3/19/03.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

If you can be proud to be an American in the face of all the awful things America has done in the past few years, THAT troubles me.

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

If you can be proud to be an American in the face of all the awful things America has done in the past few years, THAT troubles me.

I am proud to be an American, in spite of whatever has happened in the last few years. Why?

Because I live in a country where I can say that I don't like the government without fear of thugs knocking on my door in the middle of the night to drag me and my family away.

Because I live in a country where I am free to read anything I want without it being dictated by my government.

Because I live in a country that does not deny me access to certain parts of the internet.

Because I live in a country where I can have a say in who leads my country and who represents me in government. And while I am just one vote amongst millions, I still get to vote.

I would go on, but my time is limited.

[Snowflake]

Kevy you said it so well.

I would only add, speaking for myself, I am proud to be an American, but this does not mean I am proud of the current administration (or lots of things about past administrations).

I'm hopeful about the future, I have to be, I'm a glass half full person.