Yes, we can.

[innerSpaceman]

ok, that Goonie out. Doesn't change the tide. Sorry.


Elected Delegates is not the whole story, Moonie. Superdelegates are going to swing the election. Obama is likely to head into the convention with his roughly 100 delegate lead, and Clinton is likely to win the overall popular vote by the end of primary season. If she wins Pennsylvania, which is also likely, she's got a good argument that she is more electible by virtue of carrying the states that, like it or not, determine the presidential election for all of us.

A tiny swing of superdelegates is all it takes. That's why it's going to tie for all intents and purposes. If Clinton's big-states argument carries weight, she will be declaraed the nominee. The superdelegates don't want to go agains the will of the electorate, but they also want to win the White House. If Clinton wins the popular vote, that could be all the cover they need to award the nomination to the candidate a little behind in elected delegates.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

ok, that Goonie out. Doesn't change the tide. Sorry.


Elected Delegates is not the whole story, Moonie. Superdelegates are going to swing the election. Obama is likely to head into the convention with his roughly 100 delegate lead, and Clinton is likely to win the overall popular vote by the end of primary season. If she wins Pennsylvania, which is also likely, she's got a good argument that she is more electible by virtue of carrying the states that, like it or not, determine the presidential election for all of us.

A tiny swing of super-delegates is all it takes. That's why it's going to tie for all intents and purposes. If Clinton's big-states argument carries weight, she will be declared the nominee. The super-delegates don't want to go against the will of the electorate, but they also want to win the White House. If Clinton wins the popular vote, that could be all the cover they need to award the nomination to the candidate a little behind in elected delegates.

I think that if superdelegates are perceived as having selected the nominee then a lot of Democrats are going to be royally pissed at the party and vote for staying home on election day, essentially giving the election to McCain.

I predict that party leaders will NOT let that happen at all costs. Also I think if Clinton drops out her supporters will go grudgingly over to Obama. A large number of Obama supporters will never vote for Clinton. In fact a good number of independents will cross over and vote McCain.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

o she's got a good argument that she is more electible by virtue of carrying the states that, like it or not, determine the presidential election for all of us.

She's tried to play that card...except all that's been proven is that she wins them over Obama. She wouldn't be running against Obama in the general, she'd be running against McCain, and on that, Obama still has the advantage.