Yes, we can.

[sleepyjeff]

"I trust the American people to understand that it is not weakness, but wisdom to talk not just to our friends, but to our enemies, like Roosevelt did, and Kennedy did, and Truman did."
~B.H. Obama

Huh? What is he talking about here? Roosevelt didn't talk to Hitler, Mussolini, or Tojo. Truman didn't talk to Kim Sun either. Kennedy did talk to Khrushchev but that only emboldened the Soviet dictator.

Is that what Obama wants to do....embolden our enemies

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

Huh? What is he talking about here? Roosevelt didn't talk to Hitler, Mussolini, or Tojo. Truman didn't talk to Kim Sun either. Kennedy did talk to Khrushchev but that only emboldened the Soviet dictator.

Is that what Obama wants to do....embolden our enemies

OMG, yes, of course, that's what he wants, to embolden our enemies! It's all so clear now! That's exactly what he meant!



I'm no student of history, really. I don't know what he meant, what he was referring to. I admit that. Hell, sounds like a bungle to me. Doesn't mean I'm going to take the sentence to some silly conclusion.

Yeah, I called it silly. Gloves are off. My eyes are going to roll right out of my head.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

OMG, yes, of course, that's what he wants, to embolden our enemies! It's all so clear now! That's exactly what he meant!



I'm no student of history, really. I don't know what he meant, what he was referring to. I admit that. Hell, sounds like a bungle to me. Doesn't mean I'm going to take the sentence to some silly conclusion.

Yeah, I called it silly. Gloves are off. My eyes are going to roll right out of my head.

Wow...just wow. So even the "issues" are off limits as discussion points when it comes to Obama?

Why are you voting for him(don't mention character or issues since those seem to be off limits)???

[wendybeth]

Sounds like he might try diplomatic measures, the bastard!!!!

Please, SJ- don't you have anything better than that?




(For the record- plenty of POTS's have engaged in diplomacy, and not just with interns.)

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

Wow...just wow. So even the "issues" are off limits as discussion points when it comes to Obama?

Why are you voting for him(don't mention character or issues since those seem to be off limits)???

Your accusation was ludicrous. You were postulating that a candidate for President willfully wants to help our enemies. Do you actually believe that? Do you really and truly believe his intent is to help our enemies? Really?

[wendybeth]

First, he's going to commit treason. Next, he's going to be overzealous in his persecution of Islamic persons and countries to try and hide his sympathies.Then, he's naive. You guys aren't getting any younger- take care you don't throw your backs out.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by wendybeth

First, he's going to commit treason. Next, he's going to be overzealous in his persecution of Islamic persons and countries to try and hide his sympathies.Then, he's naive. You guys aren't getting any younger- take care you don't throw your backs out.

In regards to the treason...No, I never said nor do I believe that.

In regards to being overzealous....Yes, I think he might be....but that's actually a plus in my book.

Naive?........Well, I don't think he's a Daladeir but of the examples he gave for former Presidents the one who actually did personally meet with an enemy did embolden that enemy to put missiles in Cuba. Thankfully Kennedy stood tall in that crisis(but there wouldn't have even been a crisis if he didn't meet with the Premier)......but Kennedy, although considered by many to be too inexperienced for the Presidency with his mere 14 years in congress had much more experience than this Obama fellow

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

Huh? What is he talking about here? Roosevelt didn't talk to Hitler, Mussolini, or Tojo. Truman didn't talk to Kim Sun either. Kennedy did talk to Khrushchev but that only emboldened the Soviet dictator.

Is that what Obama wants to do....embolden our enemies

Point #1: I would read that quote as a reference to his administration and not just him personally. All the presidents you cite held talks and negotiations with the enemies of the day.

Roosevelt:

The negotiations to end the Russo-Japanese war

President Roosevelt to the Chancellor of Germany (Hitler)

Truman:

The Kaesong talks

etc....