Yes, we can.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by wendybeth

Reagan met with Gorbachev, Bush met with Putin- hell, his dad threw up on the Japanese Prime Minister, and at a time when we weren't getting along real well with them. Every president has met with world leaders and many of these were not close buddies of ours.

Reagan met with Gorbachev.....thus spelling the end to the Soviet empire(well, that worked out real well for Gorbachev )

Bush met with Putin..........Allies, hello

Bush met with the Japanese Prime Minister..........in 91' not 41'

[wendybeth]

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

Reagan met with Gorbachev.....thus spelling the end to the Soviet empire(well, that worked out real well for Gorbachev )

Bush met with Putin..........Allies, hello

Bush met with the Japanese Prime Minister..........in 91' not 41'

So, Reagan shouldn't have met with Gorby, then? (Going by your rather tortured logic a few posts back...)

Putin is as much an ally as the Saudis or their ilk.

Japan was in the middle of taunting us for being lazy-assed, uncultured people who deserved the economic ass kicking they were dealing when George Sr. made his deposit on the PM.

Face it- nothing Obama does will ever be right for you. I understand; I feel much the same way about McCain and I certainly feel that way about Dubya. Oh, and I wouldn't gloat too much about the Soviet Union. We're headed down that same path.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Ok, and then what's wrong with negotiating? You think we don't give something when we go to war?

Why does it have to be one or the other?

Originally Posted by wendybeth

So, Reagan shouldn't have met with Gorby, then? (Going by your rather tortured logic a few posts back...)

No, no, no....Gorby should not have met with Reagan.

Putin is as much an ally as the Saudis or their ilk.

Yep, both are allies.....not enemies.

Japan was in the middle of taunting us for being lazy-assed, uncultured people who deserved the economic ass kicking they were dealing when George Sr. made his deposit on the PM.

They were still our military and economic allies....surely you can see the difference between Japan in 91' and Iran today?

Face it- nothing Obama does will ever be right for you.

I wouldn't say "nothing" but you are not far off the mark. I am a conservative and see Obama as a threat to the direction I wish this country to go(to be frank, I think McCain is also a threat to conservatism, but at least he might meet my expectations halfway every once in a while).....so yeah, of course I am going to nitpick and point out every little thing he does that disturbs me...even if only a little. I try to stay on the issues and not pick on his bowling score, where he was educated or his name but instead focus on things I really think matter, again, if only a little. I expect that if I am being unfair or just plain wrong lots of people here will point that out to me.

Oh, and I wouldn't gloat too much about the Soviet Union. We're headed down that same path.

Yep, nothing last forever and one day the US will go the way of the Roman Empire....but since predictions of our demise have been constant since 1776 you will have to excuse me if I don't stop my gloating over the end of an evil experiment in the bondage of the human soul we sometimes call the old Soviet Union