All About McCain

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

She can appeal to those Hillary voters that (much to the chagrin of 3894) want to see a female on the ticket.

She can appeal to them, only if they are willing to compromise every other issue that they believe in. This is a woman who thinks that creationism should be taught in school, that is pro-life, pro-drilling in ANWR, anti-environment, etc.

If one was a supporter of Hillary, then it seems a fair assumption that one also agreed with her policies. And yet, all of those must be discarded to vote for this woman. I just don't see them being successful in that regard. People didn't just want to see "a woman" on the ticket. They wanted to see a specific woman on that ticket. If the Pubs threw Mariah Carey on the ticket, I don't think you are going see Hillary supporters flocking to support her.

[tracilicious]

Originally Posted by Motorboat Cruiser

She can appeal to them, only if they are willing to compromise every other issue that they believe in. This is a woman who thinks that creationism should be taught in school, that is pro-life, pro-drilling in ANWR, anti-environment, etc.

If one was a supporter of Hillary, then it seems a fair assumption that one also agreed with her policies. And yet, all of those must be discarded to vote for this woman. I just don't see them being successful in that regard. People didn't just want to see "a woman" on the ticket. They wanted to see a specific woman on that ticket. If the Pubs threw Mariah Carey on the ticket, I don't think you are going see Hillary supporters flocking to support her.

True that. I have a hard time envisioning many women that will vote solely on possession of a vagina. Hilary is a bad-ass in many ways. I wouldn't have been too unhappy if she had got the ticket. Palin is so clearly patriachy's b!tch that I can't imagine many empowered women giving their vote to her. All this does is give people who were already gonna vote McCain a warm fuzzy feeling that they're voting in as radical a way as those of us voting Joebama.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Motorboat Cruiser

She can appeal to them, only if they are willing to compromise every other issue that they believe in. This is a woman who thinks that creationism should be taught in school, that is pro-life, pro-drilling in ANWR, anti-environment, etc.

Anti-environment? Is pro-drilling automatically anti-environment? Or is there something else....I bet her website says she's for dirty air and water and the The Exxon Valdez was her dream ship.

In the same way that there are many one issue voters when it comes to abortion or tax policy or whatever, I would figure there are many one issue voters when it comes to a woman breaking through the "glass ceiling" and becoming VP.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Anti-environment? Is pro-drilling automatically anti-environment? Or is there something else....

She's also trying to remove polar bears from the endangered species list.

[Strangler Lewis]

It seems she has about as much experience as Spiro Agnew did when he was selected in 1968, so I assume that angle will die down fairly quickly, and we'll focus on the folks at the top of the ticket.

As for women, well, as we see here, womens is haters. Plenty of women will find reason to dislike her.

[Alex]

Regardless of whether the labels are warranted, I'd point out that Jimmy Carter candidates and Dan Quayle picks aren't exactly shining examples of presidential election failure.

Now, since I did it for Obama's selection of Biden I felt compelled to do it with McCain's selection Palin. So I watched several hours of talking head coverage across many channels and once again found a startling pattern.

Those commentators and analysts who align with the Republicans are close to universally claiming to be of the opinion that Palin is a good to great selection as running mate. Those commentators and analysts who align with the Democrats are close to universally claiming the opinion that it is at best an indifferent and at worst a sign of desparation on McCain's part.

And once again I am sure this party divide is completely coincidental and that each analyst reached their conclusions after careful personal consideration that has nothing to do with the memorizing the bullet points on their parties' various press releases.

In fact, I am so shocked by these patterns seen in response to the Biden/Palin selections that I will be submitting them as a topic for coverage in the next revival of Ripley's Believe it Or Not!

[tracilicious]

Those people are idiots and should be made to wear signs stating such.

[scaeagles]

Are you referring to one issue voters in general or one issue voters on the glass ceiling aspect?

I don't understand one issue voters, personally, or one issue making someone a great candidate or party member vs. someone being a horrid candidate or a traitor. One issue (Iraq and terrorism in particular....I guess that's two, so i'll call it national defense to make it one) has separated one Joe Leiberman from the democrat even though he is a big time dem party line voter on every other issue. Does that mean the dems are stupid for black balling him over one issue? The same can be said for republicans that black ball a candidate who may not be as staunchly pro-life as they would like.

[tracilicious]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Are you referring to one issue voters in general or one issue voters on the glass ceiling aspect?

I mean one issue voters, but particularly this issue. Her being a woman isn't even an issue. It's genetics.

Though I will say that I find voting for someone with whom you staunchly disagree with on all but one issue to be ridiculous, but voting against someone that you generally agree with but staunchly disagree with on one issue to be perfectly understandable. If my politics are generally aligned with someone, but they are intent on criminalizing abortion, no way in Satan's hell are they gonna get my vote.

[Sohrshah]

Just Sayin'