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Old 08-06-2008, 06:39 PM   #1
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Now that we're all agreed that "it is good, it is better, it is not for everybody, and you should just take the damn bus and stop whining, and why don't you just look it up yourself" I'm interested in the how it could improve discussion.

I'm still caught up on the "a bus every 5 minutes in both directions on every major street" thing but omnimovers being excessive (and that wasn't a serious suggestion, just my way of saying that the proposed number of busses would be ung-wdly expensive). Assuming that they can average 35MPH when they have stop every block that's 25 busses just for the length of Harbor Blvd. Running even at 3 a.m. on a Monday morning.

And if done on every major street that is a lot of busses interrupting car traffic with their light overrides. Even in the Bay Area they're only considering such things on a couple very main thoroughfares. Market Street in San Fransisco, International Boulevard in the East Bay. And even in ultra-hippie friend-of-public-transit Berkeley they can't agree it is a good idea.
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Old 08-06-2008, 06:58 PM   #2
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Even as much as we relied upon public transportation as teens {and my sis for a total of almost 2 decades} it wasn't perfect. We had to wait long periods, we had to walk many blocks at times to reach our bus stop, even if we were just dropped off from another bus to continue on another route. But, if it is all you have, it is all you have. Or, if it can work for you, great.

Timing, safety, convenience, all of that add up.

Even the school bus system sucks for us. To pick up my son, who doesn't start school until about 12:15, it would pick him up about 10:50.
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Old 08-06-2008, 07:09 PM   #3
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I'm still caught up on the "a bus every 5 minutes in both directions on every major street" thing but omnimovers being excessive (and that wasn't a serious suggestion, just my way of saying that the proposed number of busses would be ung-wdly expensive). Assuming that they can average 35MPH when they have stop every block that's 25 busses just for the length of Harbor Blvd. Running even at 3 a.m. on a Monday morning.
And if done on every major street that is a lot of busses interrupting car traffic with their light overrides. Even in the Bay Area they're only considering such things on a couple very main thoroughfares. Market Street in San Fransisco, International Boulevard in the East Bay. And even in ultra-hippie friend-of-public-transit Berkeley they can't agree it is a good idea.
It wouldn't start out anywhere near every five minutes. Probably closer to ten to 15 minutes between buses.

Each articulated bus would probably take 20 to 25 cars off the road. That should more than make up for all the signal pre-emptions.
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