RtS: IMAX at GardenWalk, Anaheim

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

If you place unrealistic limitations (45 minutes from Irvine to the Pond in the afternoon) on your travel itinerary, then you will probably never be able to use mass transit. But this falls under the "inconvenient" category. That you want to be home by a certain time is absolutely a convenience issue.

See, this is what ends up ticking me off in these conversations. Out of one side of your mouth you say, "Well, it's not MEANT for everybody, cut it some slack," but when someone tries to explain, "Well, then, I'm among those it's not meant for," then comes the accusation that you're just being stubborn for the sake of "convenience".

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

See, this is what ends up ticking me off in these conversations. Out of one side of your mouth you say, "Well, it's not MEANT for everybody, cut it some slack," but when someone tries to explain, "Well, then, I'm among those it's not meant for," then comes the accusation that you're just being stubborn for the sake of "convenience".

The message that I was responding to WAS an unrealistic expectation - one is in definite danger of not even being able to DRIVE that segment (45 minutes from Irvine to Anaheim during the peak of afternoon drive time).

To make the complaint that mass transit "will never meet my needs because it can't match my car drive time" is an unreasonable expectation. THAT is what I was reading.

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

The message that I was responding to WAS an unrealistic expectation - one is in definite danger of not even being able to DRIVE that segment (45 minutes from Irvine to Anaheim during the peak of afternoon drive time).

To make the complaint that mass transit "will never meet my needs because it can't match my car drive time" is an unreasonable expectation. THAT is what I was reading.

Those are my needs, which I added in a separate reply. That drive is doable in 45 minutes, I did it all last season. I also hope that you aren't suggesting I walk/bike ride home at 10:30 or 11 at night (which is when I presume a bus would get me back to Irvine). It may be Irvine but it's still not a smart idea safety wise.

It's quite obvious that the OCTA cannot meet my needs. That's ok. Again, I'll restate that "take the bus" is not the DUH answer that was implied earlier in this thread and that is what I am trying to explain. It's not a matter of convenience. It's reality. I'd also like to know where the prompter of this debate disappeared to - he didn't answer my questions either.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

The message that I was responding to WAS an unrealistic expectation - one is in definite danger of not even being able to DRIVE that segment (45 minutes from Irvine to Anaheim during the peak of afternoon drive time).

To make the complaint that mass transit "will never meet my needs because it can't match my car drive time" is an unreasonable expectation. THAT is what I was reading.

Ok, so what is a reasonable expectation? Twice the time? Including the amount of time it takes to get to the stop/station, or any transfers needed?

Every time I've had occasion to compare the drive time to the time it would take for public transit, it's ALWAYS been more than twice the time it would take to drive. Like GD said, we lived down the street from a Park and Ride, and right now we live a short bike ride from a train stop. I have always wished to use public transit and check it every once in a while, hoping things have improved. And as I said, it's always, always more than twice the time it would take to drive. That is impractical, unreasonable, inconvenient and so annoying there is no way you'd get to your destination happy.