New car dealing?

[Strangler Lewis]

Originally Posted by Moonliner

Although with all the Internet based info available now, most of the haggle aspect has gone out the window. I know the dealers actual price, they know I know, I know what a reasonable markup is, they know I know, etc...

One would think, but when I went car shopping with my mother last year, it still took us all day, starting with the MSRP+ quote and including endless head-shaking and trips back to the manager before we got where we needed to be. I don't know if it was because they thought my mother was old and not up to the battle or they're just jerks, but it was definitely old school.