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Old 06-30-2008, 11:52 AM   #1
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He wants both sides of the issue. Or so it would seem. Knowing that the LGBT will never vote for a Republican (en masse), he'll give it lip service to the group but I'm doubting he'll make it a campaign issue.
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Old 06-30-2008, 11:59 AM   #2
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He wants both sides of the issue. Or so it would seem. Knowing that the LGBT will never vote for a Republican (en masse), he'll give it lip service to the group but I'm doubting he'll make it a campaign issue.
Maybe so. But I'd be willing to take my chances with Obama.
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Old 06-30-2008, 12:00 PM   #3
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He wants both sides of the issue. Or so it would seem. Knowing that the LGBT will never vote for a Republican (en masse), he'll give it lip service to the group but I'm doubting he'll make it a campaign issue.
Well, for me anyway, if that is his personal belief then that is the kind of "having it both ways" I wish we saw more of in politicians.

Saying "I personally don't agree with this policy but will not stand in the way because it is simply my personal view and that is not sufficient reason for imposing it on others" is a very powerful form in integrity.

I wish I could remember where it was so I might find the video of it, but I did once see him at a debate or town hall type thing answer the question of whether he supported gay marriage very bluntly in the no. And then he went on and explained himself and what that meant in such a way that I was left thinking "well...short of simply saying yes that was the best answer to the question I've ever heard."
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Why should same-sex marriage be an 'issue' in the campaign anyway? We have so many serious concerns to address, and this habit of developing issues (like choice, etc) to throw people off the trail of what really should be on the table is annoying. Same-sex marriage rights are being affirmed by more and more courts, and like any other civil rights issue they will prevail, because it is just and right and when it comes down to it we have a pretty good track record of (eventually) doing the right thing in this country.
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Why should same-sex marriage be an 'issue' in the campaign anyway? We have so many serious concerns to address, and this habit of developing issues (like choice, etc) to throw people off the trail of what really should be on the table is annoying. Same-sex marriage rights are being affirmed by more and more courts, and like any other civil rights issue they will prevail, because it is just and right and when it comes down to it we have a pretty good track record of (eventually) doing the right thing in this country.
It shouldn't be an issue. It's used as a divisive tool by fundies. That then fires up the gays to fight back. Lots of wasted money being thrown at this non-issue.
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If that letter is authentic, I appreciate the Olive Branch. I also appreciate that he believes he can't strategically simply support Gay Marriage Rights ... but I hate his hypocricy of asserting that separate is equal when it comes to extending "fully equal rights and benefits to same-sex couples under both state and federal law."
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If that letter is authentic...
Uh, why would it not be authentic. The Advocate isn't some tabloid...
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No one lol. He'll just keep going with the bad jokes.
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This one, Alex?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73oZ_pe1MZ8
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Can't watch YouTube at work. Will confirm tonight.
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