Yes, we can. - Page 15

Alex · 02-13-2008, 12:02 AM

I know, I've made the same decision. I'm not in any way saying I have a problem with not wanting Clinton to be president.

But I think I've heard Clinton referred to as a bitch about a dozen times today (here's Penn Gillette talking about a joke he found a bit offensive as he was telling -- or so he says -- that went over huge and he feels shows how the country will vote) and the post above wasn't the first ****.

Snowflake · 02-13-2008, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

I didn't mean to imply that it's ok to call Hillary a bitch or any other names, nor is it ok to slander. I was trying to convey that I think this country is ready for a woman president, but that woman is not Hillary.

Well it sure is not Condi, either.

Of the current female politicos I can think of, not one comes to mind as someone I'd vote for as president.

I still keep wondering, what is the big issue that america has, why does it have to be am issue race or gender? I do not mean to derail this excellent thread begging the question. I think I am just naive, plain and simple.

cirquelover · 02-13-2008, 12:03 AM

You mean being a voter in Oregon might actually count this year!! Wow, usually everything's decided before we ever get to give our opinions. Of course we're still 3 months off, so I'll wait and see.

Eliza Hodgkins 1812 · 02-13-2008, 12:57 AM

This thread inspired me to add a signature to my post. Not out of any disrespect, mind. I just rewatched the episode recently, is all.

Ghoulish Delight · 02-13-2008, 08:37 AM

There's a catch-22 for female politicians. The only ones that stand a chance of getting elected to office are ones that present themselves as "strong women", go out of their way to show that they have a strong attitude to "stand up to the men". Which then, as they get more national exposure, opens them up to the "bitch" label.

innerSpaceman · 02-13-2008, 08:40 AM

I happen to think gender is the most important issue in this election.

In the grand scheme of things, I think it's much more important that a woman be elected to the highest position of power and status in the world.

If that women is up to the task and acceptable to those who elect her, I consider that more important than just about any other issue. And if she is elected by a diverse people, then likely she would address many of the other pressing issues as well.

Kevy Baby · 02-13-2008, 08:53 AM

I happen to think ability is the most important issue in this election, regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, etc.

In the grand scheme of things, I think it's much more important that a person who is capable of doing the job be elected to the highest position of power and status in the world.

If that person is up to the task and acceptable to those who elect him or her, I consider that more important than just about any other issue. And if she or he is elected by a diverse people, then likely he or she would address many of the other pressing issues as well.

SacTown Chronic · 02-13-2008, 09:51 AM

It could be that a perjorative like 'dickhead' is usually gender-specific for males we don't like and 'bitch' is gender-specific for females we don't like. Thus, McCain is a dickhead and Hillary is a bitch in the uncivilized world of politics. Maybe it's not any deeper than that.

For the record, I'll take dickhead McCain over bitch Hillary, but my preference is for the ****** Obama.

Strangler Lewis · 02-13-2008, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SacTown Chronic

For the record, I'll take dickhead McCain over bitch Hillary, but my preference is for the ****** Obama.

"Lawyer" is not that dirty a word.

Kevy Baby · 02-13-2008, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis

"Lawyer" is not that dirty a word.

Yes it is.

02-13-2008, 12:02 AM	#1
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I know, I've made the same decision. I'm not in any way saying I have a problem with not wanting Clinton to be president. But I think I've heard Clinton referred to as a bitch about a dozen times today (here's Penn Gillette talking about a joke he found a bit offensive as he was telling -- or so he says -- that went over huge and he feels shows how the country will vote) and the post above wasn't the first ****.
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cirquelover Cruising around in my automobile... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,617	You mean being a voter in Oregon might actually count this year!! Wow, usually everything's decided before we ever get to give our opinions. Of course we're still 3 months off, so I'll wait and see.
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02-13-2008, 12:57 AM	#4
Eliza Hodgkins 1812 Sputnik Sweetheart Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Long Beach Posts: 2,685	This thread inspired me to add a signature to my post. Not out of any disrespect, mind. I just rewatched the episode recently, is all.
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02-13-2008, 08:37 AM	#5
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	There's a catch-22 for female politicians. The only ones that stand a chance of getting elected to office are ones that present themselves as "strong women", go out of their way to show that they have a strong attitude to "stand up to the men". Which then, as they get more national exposure, opens them up to the "bitch" label. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	I happen to think gender is the most important issue in this election. In the grand scheme of things, I think it's much more important that a woman be elected to the highest position of power and status in the world. If that women is up to the task and acceptable to those who elect her, I consider that more important than just about any other issue. And if she is elected by a diverse people, then likely she would address many of the other pressing issues as well.
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02-13-2008, 08:53 AM	#7
Kevy Baby Chowder Head Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Yes Posts: 18,500	I happen to think ability is the most important issue in this election, regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, etc. In the grand scheme of things, I think it's much more important that a person who is capable of doing the job be elected to the highest position of power and status in the world. If that person is up to the task and acceptable to those who elect him or her, I consider that more important than just about any other issue. And if she or he is elected by a diverse people, then likely he or she would address many of the other pressing issues as well. __________________ The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot verify their validity. - Abraham Lincoln
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02-13-2008, 09:51 AM	#8
SacTown Chronic the myth of the dream Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,217	It could be that a perjorative like 'dickhead' is usually gender-specific for males we don't like and 'bitch' is gender-specific for females we don't like. Thus, McCain is a dickhead and Hillary is a bitch in the uncivilized world of politics. Maybe it's not any deeper than that. For the record, I'll take dickhead McCain over bitch Hillary, but my preference is for the ****** Obama. __________________ Is it the fingers, or the brain that you're teaching a lesson?
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