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Morrigoon · 09-04-2008, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

NO.

You don't think McCain/Palin is at least a SLIGHT improvement over Bush/Cheney?

Ghoulish Delight · 09-04-2008, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Morrigoon

You don't think McCain/Palin is at least a SLIGHT improvement over Bush/Cheney?

Did he say "slight"? He said "worlds". Hell, there's a good chance he could be worse. Put someone in there with similar goals a Bush, but with a glimmer of intelect and I shudder to imagine.

If McCain wins, I will consider it a failure of the electorate. Failure.

More than 75% of the country says we're headed in the wrong direction, and yet half the country wants to vote for McCain? It boggles.

Moonliner · 09-05-2008, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Did he say "slight"? He said "worlds". Hell, there's a good chance he could be worse. Put someone in there with similar goals a Bush, but with a glimmer of intelect and I shudder to imagine.

If McCain wins, I will consider it a failure of the electorate. Failure.

More than 75% of the country says we're headed in the wrong direction, and yet half the country wants to vote for McCain? It boggles.

I think most of those people, myself included, do not equate McCain with Bush and his policies. With Bush it's as much his cronies as it is him. Certainly there is no love between McCain and Rove. Cheney will be gone. So already we are way ahead. Plus unlike Obama, McCain would, in all probability, be facing an unfriendly congress. That will help to limit his more extreme policies. So overall I'd take McCain over Bush any day of the week. If I'd take him over Obama, well I'll have to get back to you on that....

Cadaverous Pallor · 09-05-2008, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner

I think most of those people, myself included, do not equate McCain with Bush and his policies. With Bush it's as much his cronies as it is him. Certainly there is no love between McCain and Rove. Cheney will be gone. So already we are way ahead. Plus unlike Obama, McCain would, in all probability, be facing an unfriendly congress. That will help to limit his more extreme policies. So overall I'd take McCain over Bush any day of the week. If I'd take him over Obama, well I'll have to get back to you on that....

McCain voted with Bush over 90% of the time, and he's been in Washington for 26 years. Yet people like that he's using the word "change". (not you, Moonliner.) Bwahahaha!

Tom · 09-04-2008, 02:05 PM

Drudge has reported, and the Obama campaign confirmed, that Obama has rasied $8 million dollars since Palin's speech last night, and is on course for $10 million before McCain takes the stage tonight.

scaeagles · 09-04-2008, 02:10 PM

A few other things reported on Drudge...

Only 1 million fewer people watched her than Obama, and 12 million more watched her than Biden.

CBS News has the two tickets tied in the polls now. Looks like Palin provided a huge bump even before McCain has spoken. He will probably need that money.

And I have to laugh....after denying the surge had done much of anything, he will acknowledge on O'Reilly that it has succeeded beyond anyones wildest dreams. Does that mean he is conceding McCain was correct on pushing for the surge (some would argue he is the reason there was the surge) and is admitting he was wrong?

And McCain, while there are no specific numbers as of yet, has also reported huge donations pouring in. I even donated, which I hadn't done yet.

Ghoulish Delight · 09-04-2008, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

A few other things reported on Drudge...

Only 1 million fewer people watch her

That's hardly surprising, it being her first appearance on the national stage.

scaeagles · 09-04-2008, 02:13 PM

That is true....I even watched, and I never watch.

scaeagles · 09-04-2008, 02:31 PM

I could draw a similar parallel between voting for the dem congress and senate, who have lower approval ratings. Most in general, though, believes their particular rep or senator isn't the problem....this is why incumbants usually win reelection.

And I'd add that so many conservatives are disenchanted with Bush (me among them) that we also fit in the headed in the wrong direction category when you throw in dem majorities in the house and senate. All those who think we are headed in the wrong direction do not necessarily agree as to what the right direction is.

Ghoulish Delight · 09-04-2008, 02:43 PM

This is true, but McCain is pretty much a guarantee of continuing to travel in that wrong direction.

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Tom Valued member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 541	Drudge has reported, and the Obama campaign confirmed, that Obama has rasied $8 million dollars since Palin's speech last night, and is on course for $10 million before McCain takes the stage tonight.
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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	A few other things reported on Drudge... Only 1 million fewer people watched her than Obama, and 12 million more watched her than Biden. CBS News has the two tickets tied in the polls now. Looks like Palin provided a huge bump even before McCain has spoken. He will probably need that money. And I have to laugh....after denying the surge had done much of anything, he will acknowledge on O'Reilly that it has succeeded beyond anyones wildest dreams. Does that mean he is conceding McCain was correct on pushing for the surge (some would argue he is the reason there was the surge) and is admitting he was wrong? And McCain, while there are no specific numbers as of yet, has also reported huge donations pouring in. I even donated, which I hadn't done yet. Last edited by scaeagles : 09-04-2008 at 02:14 PM. Reason: to fix a couple typos and add another thought or two
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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	That is true....I even watched, and I never watch.
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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	I could draw a similar parallel between voting for the dem congress and senate, who have lower approval ratings. Most in general, though, believes their particular rep or senator isn't the problem....this is why incumbants usually win reelection. And I'd add that so many conservatives are disenchanted with Bush (me among them) that we also fit in the headed in the wrong direction category when you throw in dem majorities in the house and senate. All those who think we are headed in the wrong direction do not necessarily agree as to what the right direction is. Last edited by scaeagles : 09-04-2008 at 02:41 PM.
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Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	This is true, but McCain is pretty much a guarantee of continuing to travel in that wrong direction. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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