Yes, we can.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by JWBear

No. I'm tired of the divisiveness.

To far too many, ending divisiveness means "do it my way".

[SacTown Chronic]

Just Say No

[wendybeth]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

To far too many, ending divisiveness means "do it my way".

You wouldn't be referring to your better half there, would you?

(Because she's right.)

[Prudence]

Would Hillary even have been a viable candidate if she hadn't been first lady? I don't think we're at a point in this country where a woman can "rise through the ranks" in the same way the typical male candidate does. True, there are relatively few women in the senator/governor pool in which we like to fish, but they've never been serious contenders. Actually, I didn't expect Hillary to last as long as she has because we still, as a nation, put so much stock in notions of how women should behave. (Can you imagine the fall-out if a female candidate faced infidelity allegations?)

And frankly, her first lady operations never bothered me. Hell, Bill was elected to a second term, so apparently she couldn't have been that much of a bother. If I cared passionately about a cause and suddenly was in a position - elected or not - to possibly have what I saw as a positive impact, I'd take that ball and run. Could she have handled things a bit more artfully at first? Perhaps. Maybe that approach worked in Arkansas and she was as shocked as anyone that the rest of the country wasn't on board.

Also, I've said it before - I get really sick of political pundits jumping to knock down someone who suggests a reform because that reform isn't perfect, and then not even having the balls to suggest something else. It's really easy to criticize but there are real problems that merit real discussion. If there was a "perfect" answer I'm sure it would have appeared already. We're imperfect people and we're going to have to settle for imperfect solutions. And if the first lady or first gentleman or first daughter's ex-boyfriend's next door neighbor's cousin wants to spark a national discourse, I'm in favor.

However, I'm with blueerica - I'm just feeling blah about this election. My preferred candidate isn't yet old enough to run, and my second favorite candidate already bowed out. I'm pretty sure that no matter how it shakes out I'll somehow end up in the group that needs to be taxed more and provided fewer benefits (too poor for R tax cuts, too rich for D tax cuts). Maybe I just sigh and wait for 2012.

[Alex]

No. Like I've said before, even though I don't have anything against Clinton as a candidate other than policy differences (I don't think she's a bitch or mean or self advancing in any ways that are unusual for the willing politician), but I do consider her disqualified simply because I think it is a horrible idea to return a former president to the White House in any capacity, but particularly an active unofficial one.

So Laura Bush, Barbara Bush, Hillary Clinton, and Rosalynn Carter are disqualified. The last couple of years have returned Nancy Reagan and Betty Ford to contention should they wish to pursue it.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Hmm, wasn't Hillary's campaign JUST complaining about Obama "plagiarizing" speech lines from a friend?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ7Cs3QvT3U

ETA: Oh look, more... http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/20.../830/75/461653

Personally, it doesn't bother me. I only point it out due to the fact that people were trying to drag Barack across the coals for doing the exact same thing.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Hmm, wasn't Hillary's campaign JUST complaining about Obama "plagiarizing" speech lines from a friend?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ7Cs3QvT3U

ETA: Oh look, more... http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/20.../830/75/461653

Personally, it doesn't bother me. I only point it out due to the fact that people were trying to drag Barack across the coals for doing the exact same thing.

We over here on the right side got to suffer the Clinton's bold hypocrisy for 8 years....glad to see it being aimed in a different direction for a change

[Not Afraid]

I sure as hell Michelle Obama makes sure she only deals with issues of lesser importance than Hillary did. Maybe knitting will become an even bigger craze with Michelle, or perhaps she can popularize presidential sock darning. God help the country is she actually has a brain and uses her VERY influential position as the First Lady to push forth the MEANINGFUL issues she feels are important. That obviously is not something a first lady should EVER do. Tisk tisk.

[innerSpaceman]

I prefer My Way or the Highway, to be precise

[scaeagles]

I rule my house with an iron claw, WB.