All About McCain

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Along the lines of how she can be a good mom and care for the newborn....why was it never an issue that John Edwards had a cancer stricken wife?

And for the record, I don't care if she and her husband work while raising kids. I do care if she claims that lack of traditional family values are leading to the demise of morals in this country while they do so.

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

I am a little confused here; what law has she signed or proposed that is at odds with her(not her daughters) behaviour?

Most notably, her support of abstinence-only education. It's a policy that's proven to be ineffectual and is leading to an increase in the type of behavior it's purported to prevent. Her daughter's case is not proof of that trend, but it is indicative.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Most notably, her support of abstinence-only education. It's a policy that's proven to be ineffectual and is leading to an increase in the type of behavior it's purported to prevent. Her daughter's case is not proof of that trend, but it is indicative.

But how is that 'hypocrisy"?

[innerSpaceman]

scaeagles, I believe you're talking about the hypocrisy of the observer, of those who judge, not those who are guilty of the offense.

Where is the hypocrisy of Clinton's blow-job? Poor judgment? Yes, certainly. Not hypocrisy. Harrassment of women? Perhaps, but there was no outrage in the Lewinsky case because we all knew better. The handsome, charming, most powerful man in the world has to fend them off, not harrass them into sleeping with him. But improper? Absolutely. Hypocrisy? Um, no.




Yes, it's hypocritical for lefties to apply different standards to rightwingers. But that's not my point. I'm just explaining why I personally don't do that, and I'm pointing out why it seems I take more issue with rightwing fukups than I do with left's. It's the element of hypocrisy. Theirs, not mine.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

scaeagles, I believe you're talking about the hypocrisy of the observer, of those who judge, not those who are guilty of the offense.

Hmmm....certainly worthy of thought.

[Strangler Lewis]

I can't help but think that if the Democrats nominated a black woman to be vice president and it turned out her teen daughter was pregnant and the boyfriend was quoted saying the kind of macho things one would expect a black teen to say that there would not be this outpouring of sentiment from the conservative family values crowd.

[Moonliner]

Interesting...

Apparently while McCain is making his acceptance speech tomorrow evening, Obama will be making an appearance on the The O'Reilly Factor.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Moonliner

Interesting...

Apparently while McCain is making his acceptance speech tomorrow evening, Obama will be making an appearance on the The O'Reilly Factor.

Good choice of timing by Obama. The 'pubs that will want to skewer him will be watching McCain, and the dems that want to skewer O'Reilly will be watching him.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis

I can't help but think that if the Democrats nominated a black woman to be vice president and it turned out her teen daughter was pregnant and the boyfriend was quoted saying the kind of macho things one would expect a black teen to say that there would not be this outpouring of sentiment from the conservative family values crowd.

And I can't help but think that the dems would be shocked and outraged at the prying into a personal matter and linking it to the candidacy.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

And I can't help but think that the dems would be shocked and outraged at the prying into a personal matter and linking it to the candidacy.

EXACTLY!

[Strangler Lewis]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

And I can't help but think that the dems would be shocked and outraged at the prying into a personal matter and linking it to the candidacy.

Possibly, but these days I think you'd get one of the following:

1) simultaneous appeal to the center/right and the left by using the child's situation to call for the strengthening of our family and also for programs for the inner city because we have to stop babies having babies.

2) a long speech by Obama about teen sexuality, how we all remember what it felt like, and how our policies and attitudes should be more forgiving and how there should be more, not fewer resources for sex education and birth control.