All About McCain

[scaeagles]

I do see a bit of hypocrisy on the left, though. Let's talk about the Clinton example -

Palin is being slammed on in numerous areas regarding "bad judgment". I suppose I would regard the whole Clinton/Lewinsky thing as very poor judgment on the part of Clinton.

Clinton was accused of rape by...shoot, forgetting her name. This was seemingly glossed over by the left, whereas Clarence Thomas was crucified in hearings for supposedly talking about public hairs on a coke.

If an intern of some fortune 500 company had an intern doing the Lewinsky on him in his office, feminists would be claiming harrassment simply because he was a powerful male and she was his underling. No such thing with Clinton and Lewinsky.

So we can all find hypocrisy in our those we wish to because to some extent we are all hypocrits. Again, it just goes to where one looks to want to find it.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Clinton was accused of rape by...shoot, forgetting her name. This was seemingly glossed over by the left, whereas Clarence Thomas was crucified in hearings for supposedly talking about public hairs on a coke.

Juanita Broderick if I am not mistaken.

[Tenigma]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

I do see a bit of hypocrisy on the left, though. Let's talk about the Clinton example -

[I was no fan of Clinton. It's what made me bounce to voting for Bush in 2000.]

I think the point here is that the Republicans (or for my purpose here, "social conservatives") and Democrats ("social liberals") use two different measuring sticks for hypocrisy.

For social conservatives, it's hypocritical if a politician publicly denounces homosexuality but is found to be a closet gay. Or they have anonymous gay sex in airport bathroom stalls. Hypocrisy is when you are a huge Bible-thumping born-again Christian who espouses the importance of motherhood and abstinence... but who leaves nannies to tend to their six-month-old special needs baby with Down Syndrome or who ignores her own house and pays too little attention to a daughter who then goes on and gets pregnant while still in high school.

That's hypocrisy for social conservatives. Not living what you preach to others.

For Democrats, hypocrisy would be telling everyone they have to conserve natural resources... and then find out that the politician had a whole mountainside of pristine old growth oak cut down so he could get a new wooden house built. Or quietly supporting the tear-down of a homeless shelter so that he could help his friend build a high-class restaurant on the location.

The hypocrisy would not be on social things, but on things the liberals stand for. Protecting the environment, protecting natural resources, etc.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Tenigma

For Democrats, hypocrisy would be telling everyone they have to conserve natural resources... and then find out that the politician had a whole mountainside of pristine old growth oak cut down so he could get a new wooden house built. Or quietly supporting the tear-down of a homeless shelter so that he could help his friend build a high-class restaurant on the location.

So you would regard Gore as a hypocrit? Or Edwards? Or Streisand? Or Robert Redford? I can give specific examples of those things, and have, but am often told that I just don't get it.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by Tenigma

Hypocrisy is when you are a huge Bible-thumping born-again Christian who espouses the importance of motherhood and abstinence... but who leaves nannies to tend to their six-month-old special needs baby with Down Syndrome or who ignores her own house and pays too little attention to a daughter who then goes on and gets pregnant while still in high school.

That's hypocrisy for social conservatives. Not living what you preach to others.

I am a little confused here; what law has she signed or proposed that is at odds with her(not her daughters) behaviour?

For Democrats, hypocrisy would be telling everyone they have to conserve natural resources... and then find out that the politician had a whole mountainside of pristine old growth oak cut down so he could get a new wooden house built. Or quietly supporting the tear-down of a homeless shelter so that he could help his friend build a high-class restaurant on the location.

The hypocrisy would not be on social things, but on things the liberals stand for. Protecting the environment, protecting natural resources, etc.

Sounds like Gore and Pelosi

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Along the lines of how she can be a good mom and care for the newborn....why was it never an issue that John Edwards had a cancer stricken wife?

And for the record, I don't care if she and her husband work while raising kids. I do care if she claims that lack of traditional family values are leading to the demise of morals in this country while they do so.

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

I am a little confused here; what law has she signed or proposed that is at odds with her(not her daughters) behaviour?

Most notably, her support of abstinence-only education. It's a policy that's proven to be ineffectual and is leading to an increase in the type of behavior it's purported to prevent. Her daughter's case is not proof of that trend, but it is indicative.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Most notably, her support of abstinence-only education. It's a policy that's proven to be ineffectual and is leading to an increase in the type of behavior it's purported to prevent. Her daughter's case is not proof of that trend, but it is indicative.

But how is that 'hypocrisy"?

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

But how is that 'hypocrisy"?

Perhaps not, but it is damned ironic!

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by JWBear

Perhaps not, but it is damned ironic!

That it is