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Old 07-21-2008, 09:20 AM   #1
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This movie was dang dark. I kinda felt like I needed a shower after seeing it. The movie did remind me of Saw in several places. The phone embedded in the body, the grenade in the bank manager's mouth, the two ferries, the recorded footage of the hostage (Anthony Michael Hall - hahaha)... The Nolans seemed to have been inspired by the Saw films...
Now that you mention it, I see it. I didn't notice it during the movie though.

That's where Anthony Michael Hall was!
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Old 07-20-2008, 02:27 PM   #2
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Great movie.

Disliked the Bat-growl voice as well.

Did not see politics in the movie-not everything is a reflection on politics.

Found it painful to look at Dent's face- incredible effect.

I found Rachel to look haggard, and not at all attractive.

Going again on Tuesday-
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Old 07-20-2008, 03:15 PM   #3
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GD, I disagree with you completely. There was really no plot to this movie, and instead we got what I found to be a suitable replacement - fantastic attention to the theme of moral dilemma.

And just as Batman's and Dent's dilemma's were crime fighting ethics (and thus naturally veered into Bush territory), the Joker's foisted dilemma's seemed very natural as human-nature experiments with death dealing.


I also don't understand how you can have the "I saw it in Saw" reaction if you've never seen the Saw movies. But your visceral reaction is your own. I might have the same under different circumstances, but I try really hard not to fault any art for doing what's done before, as long as it's done well.

Everything's been done before. If I feel that something has been done before a little too much, it just points up how provincial my experience with art / movies / music really is. It's all been done ad infinitum.




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I hope that^ was not too spoilerish. I intend to stop using tags completely starting tomorrow. Anyone who's so interested in not being spoiled, but they'd read this thread anyway is responsible for seeing the movie opening weekend or risk being spoiled.
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Old 07-20-2008, 03:37 PM   #4
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GD, I disagree with you completely. There was really no plot to this movie, and instead we got what I found to be a suitable replacement - fantastic attention to the theme of moral dilemma.
Oh, I get that. I just thought there was just too much of it. Trim out one or two twists and I'd have loved it, but it just seemed to go on and on without adding any depth.
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Old 07-20-2008, 11:08 PM   #5
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Christian Bales' "Bat Growl" isn't menacing, it sounds like he's got strep throat.
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Old 07-20-2008, 11:38 PM   #6
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I liked this one way better than Batman Begins.

For one thing, I liked that it just took place in the real world. There were no signs of the fantasy Gotham from the last film. Just real city streets and locations. There were no MegaManiac plots by the villians or villains with quasi-super-powers.


It may have been implied that the Joker represented some kind of supernatural force of evil, but he was presented as a criminal psychopath operating in the real world.

I really liked the shift towards reality. Batman Begins took place in a world much more real than Burton's Gotham, but The Dark Knight took that four more steps closer to real reality and I liked it!

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Um, I'm pretty sure everyone on the LoT who wanted to see this has now done so. I'm done using spoiler tags. If there are "stragglers" who don't want to be spoiled, why would they be reading this thread? No more tags.
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Old 07-20-2008, 11:42 PM   #7
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I must post that I did not like any of the Batman movies (late 80's, early 90's). I wasn't blown away with the first Batman like everyone else was and I thought Returns was really bad and then they just got worse from there...
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Old 07-21-2008, 04:42 AM   #8
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I must post that I did not like any of the Batman movies (late 80's, early 90's). I wasn't blown away with the first Batman like everyone else was and I thought Returns was really bad and then they just got worse from there...

I'm with you. They were all crap.
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Old 07-21-2008, 06:43 AM   #9
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Um, I'm pretty sure everyone on the LoT who wanted to see this has now done so. I'm done using spoiler tags. If there are "stragglers" who don't want to be spoiled, why would they be reading this thread? No more tags.
Then change the title of the thread. I don't see how it's that hard to discuss a film without giving away major plot points.

I haven't seen the film and won't physically be able to do so for several more weeks.
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Old 07-20-2008, 11:43 PM   #10
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Heheh, I still think Batman Returns is the best Batman movie by far.


I'm so relieved Gemini Cricket and I are miles apart on this. At least something is normal tonight.
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