The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 155

Nephythys · 10-26-2006, 09:03 AM

Funny- I think that it's liberals who need that disconnect from logic.

Seriously.

Ghoulish Delight · 10-26-2006, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Nephythys

Funny- I think that it's liberals who need that disconnect from logic.

Seriously.

That list is so rife with logical flaws, loaded questions, exagerations, and enough spin to make the Tasmanian devil dizzy that it's not even worth my effort to go through it and point it out.

Nephythys · 10-26-2006, 09:12 AM

what a shame-because each of those sounds like the liberals I hear around me all the time. That's what makes it so sad.

Ghoulish Delight · 10-26-2006, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Nephythys

what a shame-because each of those sounds like the liberals I hear around me all the time. That's what makes it so sad.

Each of those sounds like a distorted, sound-byte version of liberal ideals menat to be inflamatory and completely devoid of actual merit. It belies the author's inability to discern reality from b.s. slogans he's been fed, and his reliance on distortion and fear-mongering rather than valid reasoning to support his positions.

If, after all these years, you really believe that supporting abortion rights = "I want to kill babies", a point-by-point response to that inane list isn't going to do much good.

Strangler Lewis · 10-26-2006, 09:19 AM

Megadittoes to GD.

Alex · 10-26-2006, 09:33 AM

For the most part, if you reverse each bullet item it sounds, as well, like the stereotypical religious fundamentalist conservative and sounds just as stupid.

That's the problem. There are reasonable assumptions underlying the apparent disconnects hinted at (but as GD says, terribly exaggerated and twisted) but the opposite sides aren't willing to discuss those differences. Better to just assume the other side is filled with unthinking morons.

Conservative stupidity

- It is a horrible sin to destroy a lump of cells but ok to murder a full grown human being.

- It's ok to hatefully target specific groups of people for hate speech, but simply burning the flag should be criminal.

- It is ok to decimate the environment and wipe out entire species just so Suburnite X can drive to work for $8.43 in gas rather than $9.12.

- Actively participating in the political debate is great, except when done by George Soros, Oprah Winfrey, and liberal Hollywood stars.

- Conservatives working to preserve bigoted hate mongers do so by claiming it is traditional American culture, but the "cultural heritage" of new immigrants must be destroyed at all costs.

- Not allowing Caucasian men to discriminate based on race or gender is racism against Caucasian men.

- Conservatives are too stupid to see a difference between one government invading another and the social problem causing spontaneous illegal immigration from Mexico. However, if we lobotomize ourselves to view them as equal and similar things, then conservatives think it is ok to invade another country for no reason at all but it is wrong to do so in search of a better life.

- Those who believe English should be the official American language are engaged in linguistic stpudity exposed by history throughout the world. However, simply because it was the language they were raised speaking they think everybody else should be forced to speak it.

- Conservatives don't believe there should be a minimum wage but use the wage suppressing black labor market as an argument against amnesty and work programs.

- Conservatives can't see the logical fallacy in this statement: Blocking the sale of port security to UAE was necessary to protect homeland security, but securing the border with Mexico would "scapegoat" Hispanics.

- It is worth having thousands of extra untested drivers on the road so that if caught driving poorly you can give them an extra ticket.

- Freedom of speech must never be repressed, except when the life of a flag hangs in the balance.

- Taxes are bad when collected from people with money but good when collected from people without money.

- The religion that controls all three branches of the government, is adhered to by 80% of the population, has two national Federal holidays (compared to zero for all other religions) and has a stranglehold on religious representation in popular culture is under attack and at risk of being stifled into non-existence.

- Government can offer no effiiciencies in any task, so it is best to leave it all to raw capitalism even if that means large swaths of the population would not be served by basic elements of infrastructure.

- Military force must never be used when a Democrat president is in the Oval Office. But once a Republican is in place daddy-revenge is sufficient motive.

Strangler Lewis · 10-26-2006, 09:37 AM

This actually makes me change my view. The author is not a retard. He's a REEEEE-TAARRRD!

SacTown Chronic · 10-26-2006, 09:46 AM

Monica Lewinsky should be the national spokesperson for Nathan's Hot Dogs. Just sayin'.

Ghoulish Delight · 10-26-2006, 05:01 PM

There's something I don't like about the cries of racism in the Tenessee ad against Harold Ford just because they've got a white woman pretending to come on to him and he happens to be black. I mean...really? Racist? That requires me to accept some pretty insulting assumptions.

innerSpaceman · 10-26-2006, 07:08 PM

Yes, the insulting assumptions that are part and parcel of Tennessee culture, where the election is to take place.

Sorry, GD, perhaps as an enlightened Californian, it's hard for you to relate to the racist fears of white women shacking up with black men that is still rife in the South.

A commercial which might not be racist in Los Angeles is certainly racist in Chattanooga.

10-26-2006, 09:03 AM	#1541
Nephythys Yeah, that's about it- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In a state of constant crap to get done Posts: 2,688	Funny- I think that it's liberals who need that disconnect from logic. Seriously.
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10-26-2006, 09:12 AM	#1543
Nephythys Yeah, that's about it- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In a state of constant crap to get done Posts: 2,688	what a shame-because each of those sounds like the liberals I hear around me all the time. That's what makes it so sad.
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10-26-2006, 09:19 AM	#1545
Strangler Lewis Doing The Job Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In a state Posts: 3,956	Megadittoes to GD. __________________ Live now-pay later. Diner's Club!
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10-26-2006, 09:33 AM	#1546
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	For the most part, if you reverse each bullet item it sounds, as well, like the stereotypical religious fundamentalist conservative and sounds just as stupid. That's the problem. There are reasonable assumptions underlying the apparent disconnects hinted at (but as GD says, terribly exaggerated and twisted) but the opposite sides aren't willing to discuss those differences. Better to just assume the other side is filled with unthinking morons. Conservative stupidity - It is a horrible sin to destroy a lump of cells but ok to murder a full grown human being. - It's ok to hatefully target specific groups of people for hate speech, but simply burning the flag should be criminal. - It is ok to decimate the environment and wipe out entire species just so Suburnite X can drive to work for $8.43 in gas rather than $9.12. - Actively participating in the political debate is great, except when done by George Soros, Oprah Winfrey, and liberal Hollywood stars. - Conservatives working to preserve bigoted hate mongers do so by claiming it is traditional American culture, but the "cultural heritage" of new immigrants must be destroyed at all costs. - Not allowing Caucasian men to discriminate based on race or gender is racism against Caucasian men. - Conservatives are too stupid to see a difference between one government invading another and the social problem causing spontaneous illegal immigration from Mexico. However, if we lobotomize ourselves to view them as equal and similar things, then conservatives think it is ok to invade another country for no reason at all but it is wrong to do so in search of a better life. - Those who believe English should be the official American language are engaged in linguistic stpudity exposed by history throughout the world. However, simply because it was the language they were raised speaking they think everybody else should be forced to speak it. - Conservatives don't believe there should be a minimum wage but use the wage suppressing black labor market as an argument against amnesty and work programs. - Conservatives can't see the logical fallacy in this statement: Blocking the sale of port security to UAE was necessary to protect homeland security, but securing the border with Mexico would "scapegoat" Hispanics. - It is worth having thousands of extra untested drivers on the road so that if caught driving poorly you can give them an extra ticket. - Freedom of speech must never be repressed, except when the life of a flag hangs in the balance. - Taxes are bad when collected from people with money but good when collected from people without money. - The religion that controls all three branches of the government, is adhered to by 80% of the population, has two national Federal holidays (compared to zero for all other religions) and has a stranglehold on religious representation in popular culture is under attack and at risk of being stifled into non-existence. - Government can offer no effiiciencies in any task, so it is best to leave it all to raw capitalism even if that means large swaths of the population would not be served by basic elements of infrastructure. - Military force must never be used when a Democrat president is in the Oval Office. But once a Republican is in place daddy-revenge is sufficient motive.
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10-26-2006, 09:37 AM	#1547
Strangler Lewis Doing The Job Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In a state Posts: 3,956	This actually makes me change my view. The author is not a retard. He's a REEEEE-TAARRRD! __________________ Live now-pay later. Diner's Club!
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10-26-2006, 09:46 AM	#1548
SacTown Chronic the myth of the dream Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,217	Monica Lewinsky should be the national spokesperson for Nathan's Hot Dogs. Just sayin'.
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10-26-2006, 05:01 PM	#1549
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	There's something I don't like about the cries of racism in the Tenessee ad against Harold Ford just because they've got a white woman pretending to come on to him and he happens to be black. I mean...really? Racist? That requires me to accept some pretty insulting assumptions. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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10-26-2006, 07:08 PM	#1550
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Yes, the insulting assumptions that are part and parcel of Tennessee culture, where the election is to take place. Sorry, GD, perhaps as an enlightened Californian, it's hard for you to relate to the racist fears of white women shacking up with black men that is still rife in the South. A commercial which might not be racist in Los Angeles is certainly racist in Chattanooga.
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