did John Kerry just call soldiers stupid?

[innerSpaceman]

Yes, case in point indeed. I find your support for warriorism to be horrid and disgraceful.




Who's right? Let's ask Jesus, shall we?

[SacTown Chronic]

Oh snap!

[Nephythys]

LOL- really? You think that was a snap Sac?

Laughable.

[Strangler Lewis]

Originally Posted by LSPoorEeyorick

My only disdain is for the president, for sending troops to die for a cause that seems to be the oil business. I have compassion for the troops; I'm sorry they found themselves in the position to have to go to war. I'm sorry that many of them felt like they didn't have any other choice. I'm sorry that some of them were pulled unwittingly into Vietnam: Now! With more Iraq!

On the other hand . . .

When it suits their purposes, the powers that be are perfectly capable of arguing that enlistees are not a bunch of stoic Cincinnatuses (Cincinnati?), but, rather, culturally unaware mutants who are bred for killing. This from a history of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell":

"DoD officials and members of Congress contended that integration would lead to violence and harassment against gay and lesbian service members. For instance, Senator Sam Nunn (D-Ga.), chair of the Senate Armed Services Committee, stated that he would "fear for the lives of people in the military themselves" if the ban were lifted too quickly. [206] Marine Corps Colonel Frederick Peck testified that a main reason he would not want his gay son to join the Marines was fear of violence: "I would be very fearful that his life would be in jeopardy from his own troops. . . . Fratricide is something that exists out there, and there are people who would put my son’s life at risk in our own armed forces." [207] One Army official testified, "There is a large percentage of individuals who have a propensity toward violence in that regard." [208] Likewise, a spokesperson for the National Guard asserted that the "sanctioned integration of homosexuals . . . will create explosive situations both in the work and living environments." [209]

I remember watching Colonel Peck's testimony on the news at the time. I found it rather chilling.

[SacTown Chronic]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

LOL- really? You think that was a snap Sac?

Laughable.

Yes I do. The Christian love of war has always perplexed me. It runs counter to EVERYTHING i understand about Jesus and his teachings.

[Nephythys]

Only you think it is a love of war- that is your misinterpretation- not my view.

But thanks for playing. Love this game- really I do.

Make the assumption that a willingness to go to war means we LOVE it- encourage it, seek it- want it. But that is your spin, not the reality.

[SacTown Chronic]

Fair point, Neph.


The Christian willingness to go to war has always perplexed me.


Better?

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

Make the assumption that a willingness to go to war means we LOVE it- encourage it, seek it- want it. But that is your spin, not the reality.

It's the reality of our current "faith-based" administration. The one that has documentation from day 1 in office that they were actively looking for a path to war with Iraq. Not looking for ways to minimize the threat, not looking for defense against attack, looking for ways to start a war. Not spin, reality.

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

It's the reality of our current "faith-based" administration. The one that has documentation from day 1 in office that they were actively looking for a path to war with Iraq. Not looking for ways to minimize the threat, not looking for defense against attack, looking for ways to start a war. Not spin, reality.

And that means they LOVE war- and that anyone who happens to share politics with them does too.

Check.

Though I doubt the premise.

Does anyone believe there will ever be a "meeting of the minds" as it were ever again- I feel as if the differences that divide us in these matters will divide us forever. The democrats will never bring us together- nor has the GOP. I suspect that those on opposite sides will never be able to truly work together or come together-

[Ghoulish Delight]

As long as there are people who would rather approach things as "Liberal issues" vs. "Conservative issues" rather than "Issues", no.