The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux)

[Nephythys]

Live up to your own standards- do not misrepresent me either.

You may not like my bluntness or my admitted lack of tact when dealing with some issues- that does not give you license to personally malign and attack me, or tell me what my intent is- or that I am "frothing" as if I am some rabid dog.

You have been insulting and rude.

Cheers- off to vote.

[wendybeth]

Originally Posted by Gn2Dlnd

No, you haven't.

Having just scanned through my 1,186 posts, I'm unable to find the nasty comments to which you refer. I've ridiculed the preznit's bad grammar. I've spoken up about anti-gay bias. I've ranted about willful misrepresentation of facts (Disney's Path to 9/11, John Kerry). I've railed against the mismanagement of the Katrina disaster, and I've called Tucker Carlson a dick. None of which rise to the level of "Kerry is a fvckin idiot who can't take responsiblity for his own words. Yeah you doofus- it's a Republican smear to point out that you are an insulting gasbag. God he is loathsome."

Please do not misrepresent me. Please do not willfully misinterpret what I post. Please don't think it's clever to use my negative characterization of your behavior on the board in your sig line, it's not. Last of all, I will not put you on ignore, nor will I play "cute board feud" with you. The importance of addressing the outrageous things you post far outweighs the irritation I experience in doing so.

Now, there ya go bringing logic and facts into this again. Rush listeners have a hard time processing information when it's presented in this form- you know that, silly!

[wendybeth]

Well, what do you know- looks like more people think Rumsfield needs to go.

"This is not about the midterm elections," continued the editorial, which will appear in the Army Times, Air Force Times, Navy Times, and Marine Corps Times on Monday. "Regardless of which party wins Nov. 7, the time has come, Mr. President, to face the hard bruising truth: Donald Rumsfeld must go."

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by wendybeth

Well, what do you know- looks like more people think Rumsfield needs to go.

"This is not about the midterm elections," continued the editorial, which will appear in the Army Times, Air Force Times, Navy Times, and Marine Corps Times on Monday. "Regardless of which party wins Nov. 7, the time has come, Mr. President, to face the hard bruising truth: Donald Rumsfeld must go."

That would mean that Bush would have to admit that his administration's course in Iraq is wrong. That will never happen. He would rather see this country go down the toilet than admit he made a mistake.

[Motorboat Cruiser]

From the same article:

In the same interview, Bush said he did not foresee a change in the immediate future in the number of U.S. troops in Iraq. He said that U.S. generals have assured him that "they've got what they can live with."

What they can live with? What the hell does that mean? Hom many times has Bush said that whatever the generals ask for, they will get? What they have asked for and what they can live with sure sound like two very different things to me.

Not that it is a surprise or anything.

[wendybeth]

CNN and MSNBC are both reporting this, while FauxNews is doing it's usual bang-up job of not spinning by not reporting.

Looks like the Neo-Rats are deserting the sinking ship: Bush screwed it up!.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Motorboat Cruiser

What they can live with? What the hell does that mean? Hom many times has Bush said that whatever the generals ask for, they will get? What they have asked for and what they can live with sure sound like two very different things to me.

If this was Kerry, of course, it would be understood that when Bush said "what they can live with" is the same as "what they need". After all, if you can live with it, you have what you need, right?

I AM SHOCKED AND APPALLED BY SUCH SPIN, MBC!

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

If this was Kerry, of course, it would be understood that when Bush said "what they can live with" is the same as "what they need". After all, if you can live with it, you have what you need, right?

I AM SHOCKED AND APPALLED BY SUCH SPIN, MBC!

That's one big if. I'll be waiting for Bush (or his peeps) to issue the correction to his statement.

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

I AM SHOCKED AND APPALLED BY SUCH SPIN, MBC!

But of course you are.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by wendybeth

CNN and MSNBC are both reporting this, while FauxNews is doing it's usual bang-up job of not spinning by not reporting.

Looks like the Neo-Rats are deserting the sinking ship: Bush screwed it up!.

Gosh...maybe Fox news didn't report it because what Perle said was completely misrepresented.

From a statement made by Perle yesterday:

I believed we should not repeat that mistake with Saddam Hussein, that we could not responsibly ignore the threat that he might make weapons of mass destruction available to terrorists who would use them to kill Americans. I favored removing his regime. And despite the current difficulties, I believed, and told Mr. Rose, that “if we had left Saddam in place, and he had shared nerve gas with al Qaeda, or some other terrorist organization, how would we compare what we’re experiencing now with that?”

I believe the president is now doing what he can to help the Iraqis get to the point where we can honorably leave. We are on the right path.

Now that doesn't sound like someone leaving the ship. It sounds like he believes there are some things we could be doing better, and those items were taken out of context. The nedia trying lying to someone to get a sound bite to try to influence the election? I'm shocked!

Did MSNBC or CNN report that soundbite? Could be. I don't know....but I doubt it.