The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 180

scaeagles · 11-08-2006, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JWBear

Whatever - clearly you missed that it was all started because some republican couldn’t keep his nose out of the President’s private sex life.

I agree to an extent. It stopped being private when it was happening in the Oval Office while foreign leaders were waiting for him in the Rose Garden, and I have heard of a sotry (no link, as it hasn't broken yet, but is supposed to soon) that Boris Yeltsin had intelligence about Monica and used that as leverage against Clinton. However, I digress from my intended subject matter.

I remember in 1994 watching election returns and rejoicing. I would imagine that is what is happening throughout most of the LoT community right now. However, I am not as depressed as I figured I would be. I didn't watch the TV last night figuring it would be bad, and this morning it was proven to be, well, bad. From my perspective, of course.

I'm trying to think of a positive spin, but I can't. Bush lost this election, sa is common in second term midterms, because of three things (two his fault, one not) - history (the party in power losews in midterms), Iraq (the PC prosecution has sucked, and the dems were fired up against it in general), and abandoning his based on spending and immigration issues.

That being said, I'm willing to give the dems a chance. Seriously - don't laugh.

They can't spend more money than the Republicans have. And that's there only real power at this point. Bush will hopefully pull out the veto pen when necessary, but I'm doubting it will happen.

My only concern is raising taxes. The economy is great by pretty much every measure, and I beleive that is largely because of tax policy. It has not hurt government receipts, in fact, the money collected has incresed with economic activity. The income tax is a tax on the attempted accumulation of wealth and has little or nothing to do with "taxing the rich", but that's a different story.

So, enjoy, my friends. I predict infighting within the dem party for the speakership, with Pelosi winning and hopefully in the spotlight sounding like a raving idiot, damaging her party for the 2008.

Scrooge McSam · 11-08-2006, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

They can't spend more money than the Republicans have. And that's their only real power at this point.

Subpoena power

scaeagles · 11-08-2006, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Scrooge McSam

Subpoena power

Hmmm...early morning grammatical booboo. Not "there only power", but "their only power". Too late to edit it, and Scrooge quoted my ineptitude. Sigh. Anyway....

I hope they do. Seriously. If they do, I predict their power won't last past the next election because they will appear to be motivated by political vengence.

Scrooge McSam · 11-08-2006, 07:05 AM

Better?

The political vengeance angle is something the republicans will definitely try. Whether that's successful depends on how effective the new Congress is in proving Bush's lack of honesty with the citizenry. And how petulant and bull headed Georgie decides to be in the coming months.

Snowflake · 11-08-2006, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Scrooge McSam

Better?

The political vengeance angle is something the republicans will definitely try. Whether that's successful depends on how effective the new Congress is in proving Bush's lack of honesty with the citizenry. And how petulant and bull headed Georgie decides to be in the coming months.

Why should George change, he's been petulant and bull headed since he's been in office? Okay, he'll be more petulant and bull headed.

SacTown Chronic · 11-08-2006, 07:54 AM

A fire in the master's house is set.

SacTown Chronic · 11-08-2006, 08:01 AM

Oh, and fvck you, Santorum.

Nephythys · 11-08-2006, 08:11 AM

It's useless- you will excuse anyone on your "side" no matter their offense- yet stomp and yell for the other "side" to pay and pay for any infraction.

My emotional disgust at some of you is too much for me- it makes me sick. I'll just side in with Leo- he has the best points.

Alex · 11-08-2006, 08:15 AM

One thing I do respect about Santorum (and it truly is a limited list) is that he stuck by what he believes in and who he believes in even when he knew it was costing him the election. Rather than what most of us got (politicians who's views adjust to get more votes) his constituents got a person who puts his views out and they got to decide if they liked them or not. No guessing what he really thinks is required.

Gemini Cricket · 11-08-2006, 08:20 AM

No, there's nothing to respect about Santorum.

11-08-2006, 07:05 AM	#1794
Scrooge McSam What? Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,635	Better? The political vengeance angle is something the republicans will definitely try. Whether that's successful depends on how effective the new Congress is in proving Bush's lack of honesty with the citizenry. And how petulant and bull headed Georgie decides to be in the coming months.
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11-08-2006, 07:54 AM	#1796
SacTown Chronic the myth of the dream Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,217	A fire in the master's house is set.
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11-08-2006, 08:01 AM	#1797
SacTown Chronic the myth of the dream Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,217	Oh, and fvck you, Santorum.
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11-08-2006, 08:11 AM	#1798
Nephythys Yeah, that's about it- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In a state of constant crap to get done Posts: 2,688	It's useless- you will excuse anyone on your "side" no matter their offense- yet stomp and yell for the other "side" to pay and pay for any infraction. My emotional disgust at some of you is too much for me- it makes me sick. I'll just side in with Leo- he has the best points.
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11-08-2006, 08:15 AM	#1799
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	One thing I do respect about Santorum (and it truly is a limited list) is that he stuck by what he believes in and who he believes in even when he knew it was costing him the election. Rather than what most of us got (politicians who's views adjust to get more votes) his constituents got a person who puts his views out and they got to decide if they liked them or not. No guessing what he really thinks is required.
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11-08-2006, 08:20 AM	#1800
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	No, there's nothing to respect about Santorum.
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