The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux)

[SacTown Chronic]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

It's useless- you will excuse anyone on your "side" no matter their offense- yet stomp and yell for the other "side" to pay and pay for any infraction.

My emotional disgust at some of you is too much for me- it makes me sick. I'll just side in with Leo- he has the best points.

I challenge you to find an example of me excusing any politician's bad behaviour.

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

It's useless- you will excuse anyone on your "side" no matter their offense- yet stomp and yell for the other "side" to pay and pay for any infraction.

Look in the mirror sweetie.

[Snowflake]

Okay, so now that the Democrats have the majority in the House, will anything really change? Somehow I doubt that it will. Although according to news reports President Bush congratulated to Democrats, somehow I figure he'll not be very cooperative and will not forego the partisan nature of politics and exercise his veto power to stem any real changes. I don't know, but I am glad all the mud slinging is done for time being and we can move on.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by SacTown Chronic

There is no perjury when a man is asked questions that are nobody's business. Only injustice.

Injustice? Perhaps. However when you are entering sworn testimony and lie that's pretty much the definition of perjury. I would have had a lot more respect for Mr. Clinton if he had just told them to piss off.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by Snowflake

Okay, so now that the Democrats have the majority in the House, will anything really change? Somehow I doubt that it will. Although according to news reports President Bush congratulated to Democrats, somehow I figure he'll not be very cooperative and will not forego the partisan nature of politics and exercise his veto power to stem any real changes. I don't know, but I am glad all the mud slinging is done for time being and we can move on.

Yep. I'm sure when that stem cell bill reaches his desk he'll say to himself "well, if that's what the democrats want I guess I'll give it to them. After all they hold a majority".

Gridlock. It's what's for dinner.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

It's useless- you will excuse anyone on your "side" no matter their offense- yet stomp and yell for the other "side" to pay and pay for any infraction.

My emotional disgust at some of you is too much for me- it makes me sick. I'll just side in with Leo- he has the best points.

My "side" is America, democracy, and the american people. What's yours?

[SacTown Chronic]

Originally Posted by Moonliner

I would have had a lot more respect for Mr. Clinton if he had just told them to piss off.

Agreed. I bet Mr. Cheney tells Congress to piss off when they supoena him.


And I know the definition of perjury, tyvm. I didn't literally mean Clinton did not commit perjury. I simply hold that perjury charges against a man who is asked questions that he should not be compelled to answer is an injustice.

(Before you ask Neph, yes I would stand in defense of Bush if he was ever called in front of Congress to testify about a blowjob.)

[MouseWife]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

My emotional disgust at some of you is too much for me- it makes me sick. I'll just side in with Leo- he has the best points.

I don't expect a non emotional response from you but I am going to venture a guess that you don't like the Clinton/Lewenski comments?

How about comments about how the election was rigged? How about how the Bush family acts like they are American Royalty? How are his daughters excused from duty?

And, finally, how about some emotional disgust with all of the body bags being sent back here from Iraq. Those bags hold our people, our fathers, mothers, sisters, brothers.

That is disgusting to me. And, your constant remarks about Dems and how you can't imagine them keeping their word, etc. etc. That is so, ah, narrow minded? Democrat is a political stance, and, if you knew some who lied or whatever, that doesn't mean every single Dem does.

You see, that is where I, as a Dem, differ from you, a Republican. I do not lump people together and then insult them all, of course, all the while presuming that I am better.

Which is what a lot of your posts do.

Thought I'd point that out because I just don't think you get that.

I see you came out here and had a great time, people welcomed you and were eager to meet you. People are people. This constant knocking of 'dems' is really getting old. I know this is a political time but I think enough is enough.

Just my .05c

And a freakin' good morning.

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by SacTown Chronic

Agreed. I bet Mr. Cheney tells Congress to piss off when they supoena him.


And I know the definition of perjury, tyvm. I didn't literally mean Clinton did not commit perjury. I simply hold that perjury charges against a man who is asked questions that he should not be compelled to answer is an injustice.

(Before you ask Neph, yes I would stand in defense of Bush if he was ever called in front of Congress to testify about a blowjob.)

Wasn't going to ask.

Though I suspect your dream of subpeonas is never going to happen-however, if so you better hope they find something huge (which I doubt) because otherwise they will look like nothing but a gang out for revenge- hardly what most people want.

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by MouseWife

I don't expect a non emotional response from you but I am going to venture a guess that you don't like the Clinton/Lewenski comments?

Could care less about them actually.

How about comments about how the election was rigged? How about how the Bush family acts like they are American Royalty? How are his daughters excused from duty?

It wasn't- hasn't been- so what? That's not my perception. It's a volunteer military- they choose to not volunteer- shall we bring back the draft?

And, finally, how about some emotional disgust with all of the body bags being sent back here from Iraq. Those bags hold our people, our fathers, mothers, sisters, brothers.

Who knew what they were going into- who are more honorable than any of the armchair generals sitting safely here deciding how things REALLY are over there.

That is disgusting to me. And, your constant remarks about Dems and how you can't imagine them keeping their word, etc. etc. That is so, ah, narrow minded? Democrat is a political stance, and, if you knew some who lied or whatever, that doesn't mean every single Dem does.

You see, that is where I, as a Dem, differ from you, a Republican. I do not lump people together and then insult them all, of course, all the while presuming that I am better.

Bullshyt- you just did.

Which is what a lot of your posts do.

Said from the safety of the majority around here.

Thought I'd point that out because I just don't think you get that.

I see you came out here and had a great time, people welcomed you and were eager to meet you. People are people. This constant knocking of 'dems' is really getting old. I know this is a political time but I think enough is enough.

Just my .05c

And a freakin' good morning.

Spare me-

Conservatives get just as knocked here. I don't like the democrat party- and I will say so.

I said I HOPE they do keep their word- but I DOUBT IT. That is not narrow minded- I am trying to be positive about things and hope for good things.

But I have my doubts-

I don't think I am better- but I am sick of explaining that to anyone.

People are people- the guy who called my politics evil gave me a hug at the wedding. I LIKE the people- I loathe the politics on the left.

I am not backing down from that- anymore than the left backs down from hating the politics on the right.

I am having a freaking good morning thanks-despite the sanctimonious stuff here!