What do all you CA drivers think of this plan?

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Do you have something supporting this supposed "supplement" claim? I've heard about this several times and have ALWAYS heard it referred to as a replacement.

That's just personal opinion based on the fact that goverments vary rarely give up a tax.

So how would YOU fix the problem? It is a real problem. Less money for road maintence.

[Darkbeer]

Originally Posted by Moonliner

Now that's a much better point. However if you keep the gas tax and add a milage tax, you still stick it to the SUV's but also have enough money to keep the roads up.

So now you want to raise taxes on EVERYONE!!!!!

Right now, the California government is raiding the Gasoline Tax funds, and have been for years... And to me that is the Democrats in charge, Gov. GrayOut and Gov. Terminator, they all should get their hands out of the cookie jar, and spend the money where it should be spent.. Transporation! As in roads, freeways and promoting public transit.

If they don't get there act together soon, I can see a new petition that will force the state to use gasoline taxes on roads, and not other programs thru the general fund...

[Ghoulish Delight]

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[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Moonliner

That's just personal opinion based on the fact that goverments vary rarely give up a tax.

So how would YOU fix the problem? It is a real problem. Less money for road maintence.

Like I said, as little sense as just having the mileage tax makes, having both makes even less. Why create a new tax with a heafty pricetag to implement (installing the transmitters on all cars, installing receivers on all gas pumps for starters) when they can just raise the existing tax?

As for what to do to fix it, if it really is a problem, then either raise the existing tax, or better yet, like Darkbeer said, improve spending accountability. The mileage tax will do nothing but reverse any progress made towards conservation.

[Not Afraid]

Originally Posted by mhrc4

what model of little mercades?

I have a 2005 C230 Kompressor. It's fun, fas (for a 4 banger especially) and a joy to drive.

[Darkbeer]

Originally Posted by Moonliner

So how would YOU fix the problem? It is a real problem. Less money for road maintence.

First thing, spend the gas tax on Transporation (as mentioned earlier).

Then the first thing I would do is remove all automatic increases in the general state budget. That is a major budget issue for years.

Right now, we are spending more than we bring in. And just like if you or I get less income (such as less hours in your job, having to switch to a new company, etc.), what do we do, we tighten our belt.

That is what the state needs to do. Stop the borrowing, and cut the fat. Yes, some hard decisions would have to be made, but that is just a fact of life.

Right now, I am expected to give 32 cents a gallon to the state, plus another 16 cents or so in sales tax (based on $2 a gallon). The Gas Tax money (32 cents) should be spent on Transportation. Sales tax goes to the general fund...

So right now, about a third of the cost of gas is taxes (66.4 cents = 32 cents to the state in gas taxes, 18 cents in Fed taxes and 16 cents in Sales tax)... and now you want to add ANOTHER tax....

Be prepared for the link to the newest petition!!!!!

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Like I said, as little sense as just having the mileage tax makes, having both makes even less. Why create a new tax with a heafty pricetag to implement (installing the transmitters on all cars, installing receivers on all gas pumps for starters) when they can just raise the existing tax?

As for what to do to fix it, if it really is a problem, then either raise the existing tax, or better yet, like Darkbeer said, improve spending accountability. The mileage tax will do nothing but reverse any progress made towards conservation.

Which brings us back to the "poison pill" statement I made early on.

As the number of hybrids grow you are going to have to keep raising that gas tax. Eventually it will get so high that most people will be forced into some type of hybrid/fuel cell or whatever.

[Name]

I think the entire tax thing in California is insane, If they can not make due with the revenues they are bringing in currently, and make allowances for those responsible ones that choose to drive an automobile that is far less taxing on the environment and resources, then they need to revamp the entire system. There is far to much waste in this state, to tax its people, businesses and commodities so much and still have problems is sickening. ****, they even take the fun out of mail order by imposing a "use" tax on its people. Something that is pretty much unheard of in any other state. So basically my view point is, I'll be damned if I will let them put any type of GPS on my bike to record my mileage, I enjoy my 50 miles a gallon, it is the main reason I ride a motorcycle(besides the lane splitting priveledge during extremely heavy traffic). No, they do not need to raise any more taxes, just get their God DAmn Spending under control. Isn't that something the the governator said he was going to do off the bat.

[wendybeth]

It's interesting to note how many things in Europe that we see as quaint or representitive of a certain period that actually evolved due to weird taxes. Taxes on windows in England, taxes on the width of your house in Amsterdam, etc. Then, of course, there is the matter of a certain rebellion..... I don't know how they can spin this one so the public will buy it, but if they can, they will.

[€uroMeinke]

Hmmm - pay at the pump is a hard tax to avoid, but a GPS system sounds like something that can be tampered with - thus avoiding the tax altogether. I think this a much better solution for the dishonest.