The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 191

wendybeth · 11-14-2006, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bornieo: Fully Loaded

So, should I run for PResident or not?

I don't know.....do you still have the runs? I'm not sure this country is ready for Presidents who like penicillin on their pizza.

Moonliner · 11-14-2006, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

How about Guiliani/Rice against Clinton/Obama in '08?

What's wrong with a president that gets pissed off from time to time? It's a job that needs an propensity to kick a little ass now and then and if Guiliani's the only one standing between Hillary and the presidency he could also be a womanizing, coke snorting, gay bashing, commie loving, alzheimer's patient and still get my vote.

Alex · 11-14-2006, 10:28 PM

It depends on how they get pissed off. And Guiliani has a record of getting pissed off in bad ways and for bad reasons (especially when his dictatorial authority over New York was challenged). Don't know if that would be tempered by the office of the president or not.

I'm certainly interested in examining him more, I just have some reservations based on what I picked up as only a faintly casual observer of New York politics. Yes, he was impressive after 9/11, but then for quite a while so was a Bush. Before that, he was more of a mixed bag. If 9/11 hadn't happened I don't think there would have been any serious talk of him for president. That isn't a disqualifier, just something that I think may be telling.

As for Hillary, the only reason I probably will vote against her is that we disagree on many major issues. But I'll have to see who she is up against. I have nothing against her personally.

€uroMeinke · 11-14-2006, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

It depends on how they get pissed off. And Guiliani has a record of getting pissed off in bad ways and for bad reasons (especially when his dictatorial authority over New York was challenged). Don't know if that would be tempered by the office of the president or not.

Perhaps we should have some sort of dual presidency so we could play good cop bad cop with our adversaries...

"Man, I don't know how much longer I can keep Guiliana from launching a nuclear assualt on your grandmother - he's one f'd up dude, but if you maybe open your own arsenal up to inspection, I might be able to calm him down."

sleepyjeff · 11-14-2006, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by wendybeth

Aren't you guys glad the Dems are taking over the Congress? Now you'll have lots more to complain about- I mean, they haven't even taken over yet and you are already on a roll!

This is our one silver lining....so much easier to complain then to defend

BarTopDancer · 11-14-2006, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by wendybeth

Aren't you guys glad the Dems are taking over the Congress? Now you'll have lots more to complain about- I mean, they haven't even taken over yet and you are already on a roll!

Someone has to finance this war, btw. Generously sending other people's kids over to serve as cannon fodder isn't going to cut it- you may actually have to underwrite it financially as well. Be interesting to see how many warhawks start backpedaling once this adventure starts hitting their wallets.

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Originally Posted by mr mojothingie

You must spread some Mojo around before giving it to wendybeth again.

sleepyjeff · 11-14-2006, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

How about Guiliani/Rice against Clinton/Obama in '08? (I wonder if all the people who condemned the Bush "dynasty" as a reason not to vote for him will have a similar problem with a Clinton "dynasty."

My problem with Guiliani against Hillary is I fear he might pull out at the last miniute and let Hillary win by default.

It would be interesting to see if Hillary could one up Gore by losing in two home States though...something really only possible if Giuliani were to be the candidate for the Reps.

Gemini Cricket · 11-15-2006, 10:07 AM

Guiliani - Do we really need another candidate that uses 9/11 to his political advantage? Just the fact that he's running is yet again reminding us about that. Bleh.

sleepyjeff · 11-15-2006, 10:20 AM

In all fairness to Rudy. He was considered a possible Presidential Candidate before September 11, 2001. Mostly due to his ability to transform a large floundering buruacracy in a short span of time.

Snowflake · 11-15-2006, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

In all fairness to Rudy. He was considered a possible Presidential Candidate before September 11, 2001. Mostly due to his ability to transform a large floundering buruacracy in a short span of time.

Well, in the current state, it will stretch his abilities to the max, IMO.
How will he do with foreign policy, I wonder given his lack of experience?
Seems to me, Mr. Bush has not done too well in that regard.

11-14-2006, 10:28 PM	#1903
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	It depends on how they get pissed off. And Guiliani has a record of getting pissed off in bad ways and for bad reasons (especially when his dictatorial authority over New York was challenged). Don't know if that would be tempered by the office of the president or not. I'm certainly interested in examining him more, I just have some reservations based on what I picked up as only a faintly casual observer of New York politics. Yes, he was impressive after 9/11, but then for quite a while so was a Bush. Before that, he was more of a mixed bag. If 9/11 hadn't happened I don't think there would have been any serious talk of him for president. That isn't a disqualifier, just something that I think may be telling. As for Hillary, the only reason I probably will vote against her is that we disagree on many major issues. But I'll have to see who she is up against. I have nothing against her personally.
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11-15-2006, 10:07 AM	#1908
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	Guiliani - Do we really need another candidate that uses 9/11 to his political advantage? Just the fact that he's running is yet again reminding us about that. Bleh.
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sleepyjeff Go Hawks Go! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parkrose Posts: 2,632	In all fairness to Rudy. He was considered a possible Presidential Candidate before September 11, 2001. Mostly due to his ability to transform a large floundering buruacracy in a short span of time. __________________ River Guardian-less
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