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€uroMeinke · 12-15-2006, 06:14 PM

Beige is Beautiful

mousepod · 12-15-2006, 06:41 PM

Well, tonight is the first night of Chanukah, so in the spirit of sharing and respecting others' traditions, I plan to light one Christmas tree tonight. I wonder what time the neighbors get home...

SacTown Chronic · 12-15-2006, 08:39 PM

Yes, let's all light tree in the spirit of brotherhood.

3894 · 12-18-2006, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner

It's running amok in our society..

The Seattle Airport puts up Christmas trees, and a Rabbi threatens to sue.

It's getting a little tired, no?

And no to public expenditures for religious promotion. Yes to both sides of the issue shutting the hell up and just fading away.

Nephythys · 12-19-2006, 08:46 AM

What if they do not have a natual desire to learn and succeed?

There is not one formula for every kids- no "one size fits all" course of action.

Stan4dSteph · 12-19-2006, 08:52 AM

I thought this was about the war on Christmas.

Moonliner · 12-19-2006, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Stan4dSteph

I thought this was about the war on Christmas.

No, at least not for me. This was never about Christmas exactly. It was about people overreacting to other people. I think Alex summed it up nicely, it's about people getting offended on behalf of other people. The examples I gave were taken from current headlines and given the time of year 2/3 happened to have a holiday bent.

Of course thread have a life of their own so they go where they will, but I can state that the original post was not about "The war on Christmas"

tracilicious · 12-19-2006, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner

Except that young kids (pre-teen and younger) crave the praise. Withholding that in favor of responses like "What did you find most challenging" equates in their mind to rejection. I still argue praise for effort. At age two a scribbled crayon mess is cause for praise, age four not so much.

No, kids crave their parents acceptance. When that acceptance has been translated into pleasure or disapproval over individual actions, then that is when kids begin to crave the praise.

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What if they do not have a natual desire to learn and succeed?

Everyone is born with a natural desire to learn and succeed. It is often driven out of them by the conditional acceptance of those around them. With support and unconditional love, I believe every child will do their best in everything they want to do.

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Originally Posted by GD

I'm just against the "You're a winner no matter what!" mantra.

Why does it have to be about winning or losing? My question is not, should one person win musical chairs or should everyone, my question is why musical chairs? Wouldn't it be a more fun game, if instead of everyone trying to snatch a chair and one person being sent away, all the kids try to fit into the remaining chairs? Then in the end you have a whole group of giggling kids and not five sad kids and one happy kid (or five kids that know they got a booby prize and one kid that resents not being the real winner).

The lesson between the two games is different as well. In the fun version kids work as a team to solve a problem and reach a goal. In the standard version kids focus on defeating their opponent. I stipulate that the former is a more valuable skill to learn. I don't know anyone that needs to defeat people on a regular basis. Almost everyone I know has to work with others to reach common goals. Why are we drilling competition and the need to "win" into kids at such a young age? What's the point of that? I don't see it as anything but destructive.

Nephythys · 12-19-2006, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by tracilicious

Everyone is born with a natural desire to learn and succeed. It is often driven out of them by the conditional acceptance of those around them. With support and unconditional love, I believe every child will do their best in everything they want to do.

I see- well, I disagree and take some exception to your generality- but it's not worth getting any further into it.

Moonliner · 12-19-2006, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Nephythys

I see- well, I disagree and take some exception to your generality- but it's not worth getting any further into it.

Ohh, nice use of the passive aggressive debate technique!

I get to make my point but you don't get a chance to respond because I have already deemed it not worth getting any further into.

Well done

12-15-2006, 06:14 PM	#1
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12-15-2006, 06:41 PM	#2
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SacTown Chronic the myth of the dream Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,217	Yes, let's all light tree in the spirit of brotherhood.
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12-19-2006, 08:46 AM	#5
Nephythys Yeah, that's about it- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In a state of constant crap to get done Posts: 2,688	What if they do not have a natual desire to learn and succeed? There is not one formula for every kids- no "one size fits all" course of action.
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Stan4dSteph Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: East Bay Area, CA Posts: 3,156	I thought this was about the war on Christmas.
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